Based on this, do I want to know how they viewed free speech in stories about SCOTUS test cases invoking it in increasingly creative and dangerous ways? Probably not… 
So much this. They keep enabling groups who make it clear they want a country that prioritizes business decisions over government protections, and ensures their religion and speech is respected more than the beliefs and views of others.
It really is. They keep trying to cancel my existence every fucking day and their useful idiots support them by saying that maybe we should just change our terminology so they wouldn’t feel threatened. Then they’d try to cancel my existence in ways that didn’t trouble useful idiots. Because they don’t really disagree with the Republicans- they disagree with their tone too!
Well - with possibly being associated with that tone.
Indeed. One of the lessons of the late Weimar is that aligning with the far right, radical wing has a very real possibility of bringing that wing to power. The conservative elements scared shitless of the socialist and communists no doubt really believed that giving the nazis power in the government, and making Hitler chancellor would not be a problem, as he could be controlled… well, surprise assholes…
THIS is the real cancel culture we should care about - the attempt to cancel anyone who isn’t white, Christian, straight, cisgendered, conservative, “traditional”, etc. etc. Again, pay witness to nazi Germany and how the very first people they went after (well, after expelling communists/socialists) was the LGBQT+ community.
But hey… maybe if we’re all “nicer” to these bozos, they’ll stop trying to erase everyone they don’t like… I’m sure it will work this time.
Sirrah! If you do not desist in eliminating me; I shall ask you once more.
That’ll teach em’. Teach them how to eliminate me.
"Say what you like about the Nazis, it’s certainly your right to, but at least their voice was finally heard in the 40s!!"
Big fucking /S
Can’t we just find common ground between [checks notes] a nihilistic fascist autocracy and a pluralistic democracy that wants to keep people alive? Fair’s fair!
I really don’t think it can be overstated how much of the current right-wing culture war is about their realization that an education makes young people question ignorant right-wing beliefs they were raised with*, so they’re moving from destroying higher education to destroying all of it.
*I mean, I don’t think you can go to a college and not meet people who say, “I was taught X, Y and Z, growing up and now I’m actually learning about those things and discovering that… none of that is factually true.” Right-wingers like to frame that as, “universities brainwash our kids” because the alternative is admitting that the current right-wing worldview is heavily premised on lies.
Yeah, given that, it’s so absurd to suggest that you can somehow engage with, much less counter a lie by changing your position or rhetoric, etc.
and not just the beliefs and views of others. they believe their privileged position should be respected more than the lives of others.
if anything the nyt editors are the ones not living in the real world. when was the last time they were worried about making ends meet?
their wealth in our system pads them from the consequences of the real world, so all they’re left with is the consequences of their speech
i think they’re saying they feel shamed and that they don’t like it. they’d rather have people stop shaming them so they don’t have to change, so they don’t have to feel bad platforming views that are harming people, so they can just carry on as is
But hey, once the women have been forced into the kitchen, the LGBT people into the closet or the grave, the black people into the fields and prisons, the Hispanic people into whatever random country we decide they belong in, the poor into the sweatshops, the Jews into whatever solution they come up with for them…maybe then the handful of us who are left can finally get some right-wingers to vote for something we want.
I mean, appeasement doesn’t exactly have a great track record, but what – aside from pretty much everyone we care about – do we have to lose in trying?
Since when does free speech mean that anyone can publish whatever the hell they want in a major newspaper?
“Freeze peach for me, but not for thee.” ~ NYT, 2022
(Fucking idiots.)
I suspect that in the hellscape the right-wing describes as “Great Again,” nobody gets to vote. They’ll just fulfill the wishes of Dear Leader, who decides what will be best for everyone…
This is my favourite part of what you said, because I believe we are supposed to question how we live, that’s how we move forward, that’s how we recognise that the “power of a strong man” is nothing but bullshit and fear and that knowledge and empathy are what make us human.
To that end I also believe the subject isn’t as important as the act of studying itself, and learning and practicing critical thinking. Anything else makes Others of different people and that only ever leads to harm. Most differences are to be celebrated not turned into weapons against each other.
I don’t want to follow people who are incapable of learning and growing.
Exactly that.
Oh look, the fucking New York Times thinks somebody else has too much influence over what’s considered acceptable, respectable, and true—and the fucking New York Times thinks the solution is for somebody else to go sit in the corner and think about what they did 
if anyone wants to see an example of real cancel culture look no further than . . .
Yeah, exactly - and that’s the big cultural difference, I think, between us and them. Any sort of questioning of the received wisdom is an absolutely terrifying idea for American conservative culture - it’s not to be thought about, it’s only to be accepted.
Well, there is. It’s just meaningless, because it hasn’t got any actual social, political or economical power behind it, and is the work of individuals on social media (for the most part), instead of a systemic, society-wide thing.
