I read Neuromancer, Dune, Stranger in a Strange Land, Left Hand of Darkness, and 2001… all before age 14. In fact I think I read three Dune books in middle school (they were in the school library) as well as most of Heinlein’s work.
I switched to eBooks and now I have to throw nothing away (and I strip the DRM from them as it is trivial to do).
Agree with those two.
I’m not familiar with his son. Did he do something bad? I Googled and didn’t see anything other than another son, Bruce, who was apparently gay and died from AIDS related complications.
You’re right. I meant Bruce. But, from what I recall, Frank through him out for being gay.
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It would Citizen of the Galaxy.[/quote]
I loved that book, though Moon is a Harsh Mistress is probably more classic. Like everyone else in those days I read Stranger in college, and enjoyed it then, but as I get older the book seems increasingly idiotic. Maybe it is just my old man digestion doesn’t let me grok it as we
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is not generally considered science fiction[/quote]
Neither is lots of literature (Cyrano de Bergerac comes to mind) that certainly is.
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many US dwellings are a lot larger[/quote]
I lived briefly in Oslo a few years ago, flat prices seemed on par with Honolulu until I realized that they were half the size for the price. And Honolulu apartments and houses are far more expensive than nearly everywhere else in the US.
Unfortunately, again, not particularly unusual for a man of his generation.
Unfortunately, not.
My dad didn’t throw me out when I came out as trans, but only because I was 39. He also hasn’t spoken to me since. I still admire him.
You’re better than I would be about it If he hadn’t spoken to me in that situation, I’d probably be “screw 'em” and walk away.
I’ve known people who attempted all kinds of harms on themselves because of family rejection. I expect you do too.
As much as I love The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, I still think Citizen of the Galaxy has the most enduring and universal message for any generation. I do like Stranger in spite of it’s flaws. And it’s certainly a SF classic in terms of its impact on the genre, which has been more extensive than any other Heinlein novel (even Starship Troopers which really birthed the whole mil SF sub-genre), but it isn’t as well written as either Citizen or Moon.
COTG and Moon are both timeless. Stranger is kind of tied to the period; cults and communal living were trendy in the 60s and early 70s (interestingly peaking well after Stranger was written), now they mainly just seem creepy, especially post Manson and Mel Lyman.
Isn’t that one the Libertarian masturbatory fantasy or am I thinking of a different Heinlein book?
Bear in mind that most modern readers won’t know who Manson or Mel Lyman were. I basically agree with you, but we’re probably from the same generation.
No, you’re pretty much on point.
It has more than that of course. I like it mainly because of all the bad SF movies that ignore gravity and it has one of the earliest interesting AI characters who shows up later in Time Enough For Love. Plus it’s fun. But then so is…well, you know…
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