Photos secretly taken of family through window are art, not invasion of privacy: court

We keep replying to you all the time, yet we never seem to learn.

He responded to you point-by-point. You responded with your old tried-and-true: an ad-hominem, followed by a hasty retreat.

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You know bold large font is the same as shouting right?

Yes you do.

Not even a telephoto lens will bend around that street angle and let you see into the bathtub or someone cleaning the floor or someone standing 4 feet from the window.

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None of his points are viable or will do what he thinks they will. Nothing he mentioned will make anything transparent. But he thinks they do so he continues arguing that. I gave up laughing at his imaginary movie based tech. "
Both you and he are simply engaging in argumentative tactics. Thatā€™s not the same as having an argument. You both move the goalpost and call it making points. Frankly, itā€™s boring and churlish and trying to help you understand that isnā€™t something I care to do. One day, perhaps you will learn to discuss something instead of waving flags and yearning for attention. Perhaps, but I doubt it. That would take introspection.

I tried to go back and look up the case of the drone ā€˜spyingā€™ on apartments in Seattle.

The police seemed to be saying that there might have been a breach of privacy laws if a camera was looking in, but no case was ever brought as far as I can tell. I think it was a developer doing surveys or something.

I think this photographer cum voyeur stalker is quite lucky actually.

If the family had begun with a criminal investigation the police may have turned up the photos which the social contract ignorer didnā€™t display, which likely would contain nudity of young people.

While all we know about him now is that he disregards people in a very basic way, the police would have done their usual job of gunning to extremes and heā€™d be behind bars labelled a child pornographer, especially if the family had learned they were being stalked before the display.

But if you live in the building opposite, you can see straight across.

#just like the photographer in question

Stalker? He lived across the street.

I do not think that word means what you think it does want it to.


BTW, ALL CAPS IS SHOUTING, BUT HEADLINES (prefixed with a #-sign) ARE NOT SHOUTING

#UNLESS YOU HEADLINE AN ALL-CAPS
##OR ALL-CAP A HEADLINE
###Knee-capping doesnā€™t count
#####Popping a cap-gun in oneā€™s donkey likewise: not

A drone is not a permanent structure, like a building. If there has been a building with windows across the street from your windows, and you have been able to look out of your windows for years and see its windows itā€™s a reasonable expectation that people behind those windows can see yours. Itā€™s not reasonable to assume that a low-flying vehicle will suddenly appear outside of your window looking in, however - with either a camera or a person aboard.

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The police statement was that if any laws had been broken it would be about taking photos into houses, not about the use of drones, thatā€™s all I noted.

But they didnā€™t say what laws, so I donā€™t know what the details might be, and @catgrin isnā€™t around to look them up for us.

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It is shouting, youā€™re relying on a singular definition as though all-caps is the only manner of shouting in text. Disingenuous & rude.

Speaking of definitions.

a person who stealthily hunts or pursues an animal or another person.

He was shooting them at unawares from a space he deliberately darkened to avoid detection. He absolutely was stalking them using physical subterfuge. He did so over a prolonged period of time. That is all quite obviously stated. His pursuit was to photograph them at unawares in their home. Since he did not ask their permission or alert them to his doing it in any case there is no question at all he was stalking them.

It doesnā€™t matter if he lived across the street or in Bulgaria.

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You do realize that Seattle is in Washington State and New York City is in New York state (and they are different cities as well). Citing a Seattle local case might not be relevant since, I know for a fact, Washington laws are very different on many things than the much older states back east.

Shit!

This must be why my commute takes me so long.

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You can see the ceiling, thatā€™s for sure.

Iā€™d like to point out that I once had to move because of a stalker who lived directly across from me and made a point of jacking off while standing between the curtain and the window at least several times a day whenever he could tell I was in my one-room apartment. The only window in my apartment was facing him and was the kind that opens like French doors but inward, which means I had to keep the entire window covered at all times, letting in no light or air. Just putting on the light in the room would attract him, because I didnā€™t have full blackout conditions so he could tell around the edges.

The police told me there was nothing they could do and I would have to move to get away from him. So I did, when my lease was up (couldnā€™t afford to break the lease).

So yes, a stalker can live across the street and make your life hell through your window.

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These days you could take photos with your birdwatcher lens and post them on twitter, reddit, etc.

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Imaginary, movie based?

Camero is a vendor of the Xaver through-wall seeing radars. You may like to look them up. Try Youtube.

Also, something from MIT.

And a Wi-Vi demo (a simple passive doppler radar).

And something similar, albeit not imaging per se, ā€œjustā€ gesture-recognition.

And muon imaging.

Do you still think it is an imaginary movie tech, sir?

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While this would be my reaction, Iā€™m not sure antagonising someone sociopathic enough to get off on jacking off in such a fashion is a good idea.

Antagonize them enough to act out and maybe the cops (or my baseball bat) can do something.

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Specialty lens? Heck, I could have used a Brownie camera and gotten a clear shot! As I said, the guy would be right up against his window, not in the back of the room somewhere.

This didnā€™t violate any indecent exposure laws? That seems crazy to me.

Never had problems like this in NYC. This was in Chicago, where the police are notorious for, well, lots of things.