Police op-ed in LA Times: 'Do what I tell you,' I may shoot you if you 'threaten to sue me'

My go-to phrase: ‘‘I am happy to comply with whatever it says on the warrant.’’

Also, ''I’d love to help, as soon as I’ve had a chance to consult my legal council."

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Sounds good to me but I betcha the cops only hear “I am happy to comply… I’d love to help”.

That’s where the camera comes in.

I would say that the point is that we need to do it despite the danger. Land of the free, home of the brave doesn’t really imply anything about safety of the individual.

A few more years and that might be something that doesn’t exist (above water) - it will only exist in people’s minds…

All the easier to worship…

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Hello,

Colorado Technical University is a for-profit university. A former employer of mine got his Ph.D through them in computer science, but was somewhat dismissive of it, saying that his university studies in the UK (B.Sc or Masters equivalent, I think, I don’t remember exactly) were much more difficult than CTU’s doctoral program. I don’t think they have had any accreditation issues, but their parent company, Career Education Colleges, has had issues at other colleges.

I lived in the region for several years, and the general consensus was that Colorado College and UCCS were “better colleges,” although that criteria seemed to be largely subjective. USAFA was also thought of highly, but it is also a military academy.

I did find Dr. Dutta’s Wikipedia page here, and a staff page for him here at CTU as well. Both of them are interesting reading.

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Once you take the AR15s out of the hands of the people, only the Cops and the Soldiers will have them.

Though just as an idea: Once only the cops and soldiers have the machine guns, it is possible that they won’t feel such a need to routinely use them.

To a lilly livered liberal European like me, America seems to be stuck in a feedback loop as far as guns go. Because cops know that everyone out there may well have a deadly weapon, they feel they need to keep theirs in their hands. And then of course, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Or a person who might be just about to pull a gun out.

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“He has great interest in the field of terrorism, both on theoretical and practical levels.” (from his staff page at CTU)…

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His “advice” also means that any person with mental health issues - even PTSD - has a pretty good chance of ending up dead on any encounter with the police. In my world, if the police doesn’t know how to deal with mentally disabled people (or, as someone else mentioned, hearing impaired people), the police is not working right.

(several paragraphs of the article could believably have been written by a Somali pirate with no change in tone or content)

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The Internet Archive has [an interesting piece][1] made as a training documentary. And that was 50 years ago in Louisiana, a recognized hotbed of good governance. If you can’t at least meet that standard you should probably not be teaching ‘homeland security’, whatever that entails.
[1]: https://archive.org/details/Bookedfo1960

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Body cameras are a definitely a good idea.

As for sympathizing with all the decent cops, it’s hard to do when if they do exist & truly are a majority then these decent cops are in the absolute best position to prevent all misconduct & are required to do that.

For as long as the situation remains thus, there are technically no decent cops.

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The True Scotsman is a decent cop, by all accounts.

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If only we could find him or get a message to him somehow.

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“Work to end misogyny and rape culture”
“Don’t dress like a slut or go out at night without a male chaperone”
“Work to end systemic and interpersonal racism”
“Don’t wear a hoodie in a gated community if you are black”
etc, etc…

Don’t tell me
I tell you
Me and my people just about due
I’ve been there so I know
They keep on saying “Go slow!”

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… with a gun.

He’s not a beat cop in a dangerous neighborhood who got caught in an impromptu interview. He’s a professor who wrote an op-ed. He seems like a perfectly legitimate target for rage, both because of his personal views and because he’s a representative of the system.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Police-domestic-violence-nearly-twice-average-rate-2536928.php

Come on now, the US might be the easiest place to get a gun in the world, but the police are much more brutal in the US than nearly every other developed country. One might actually wonder if the cultural obsession with the right to shoot people doesn’t increase police violence. Unless you are actually planing to start killing cops, what the hell good is that rifle going to do you?

No, daneel wasn’t. That wasn’t selective quoting from three different paragraphs, it was one thought with many parallel constructions. If I said, “I think it’s okay to raise, slaughter and eat sheep, cows, goats and humans” you would be totally justified in quoting me as saying, “I think it’s okay to … slaughter … humans.”

I actually think there is a good chance if you replaced all the cops in Ferguson with random Scotsmen the situation would improve a lot.

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The Bureau of Labor Statistics breaks down on the job fatalities into a few categories. It’s been a couple weeks since I looked at them, but IIRC, firearms and traffic fatalities are separately tallied. I’m sure their union doesn’t want that breakdown available, but it’s informative for the rest of us to put the myth of America’s Most Dangerous Job to bed.

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You are right about the police knowing that many of us are armed and that they need to be able to respond to that with a level of force necessary to counter. I know it’s hard to draw parallels with Mexico but civil disarmament has not worked well for the average citizen there. They are our next door neighbor after all.

It is just really hard to gauge how much how much of the responsibility for one’s own personal security should be ceded to others. That balance is a tricky one.

Firearm ownership is written into our Constitution but doesn’t require people to own guns rather it ensures the right possess them. Any potential despot(or home invader) has to consider the fact that millions of us are armed and capable of doing more than throwing stones.

Despots have to contend with people with guns everywhere in the world, they also employ people with guns. America has already descended into a kind of plutocracy and a substantial portion of those people with guns are cheering that on and supporting the police in Ferguson. While I suspect that a despot would have a tough time in Switzerland where gun culture is very tied to responsibility and duty, one in America would simply hire half of the gun-lovers to fight the other half, and would have no trouble doing so. One might argue that this has already happened.

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Hell, there’s a save point. I went for the fucker.

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