Reasons to switch to Firefox

I don’t think it’s conscious. It’s just there in Wordpress as a typically vile wordpress default and we never got around to consciously deciding what to do about it.

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You’re subconsciously AMPing?

Being as someone who has had problems with firefox stalling / bugging out when you open too many tabs at once in the past, 20 is astoundingly low. I have no idea how you managed that.

I have an utterly immense set of bookmarks in folders for webcomics for example, i’ve found firefox started bugging out at loading around ~64 tabs at once (opened via a bookmark folder), with the problem vanishing at ~60 bookmarks being loaded at once. So i split my webcomics into three folders and all has been fine since, back from at least firefox version43 or something at the very least.

Getting e10s support functioning was amazing, with it significantly loading all 8cores on my old AMD FX CPU when i open one of said 60 tab bookmark folders and making it noticeably quicker to load. :slight_smile:

So do I. Outlook Express didn’t work worth crap on my home machine and one of the IT guys from work suggested Thunderbird. I love it, especially with the Lightning calendar. It’s really nice now that I’m using it for my business as well.

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It may have to do with the type of content. I do a lot of research for projects that often involve pages full of images like Pinterest. 20 isn’t necessarily the point where it crashes, but where it starts to lag enough to make it useless. It doesn’t crash as often as it used to. These days I have to use overlapping adblockers to catch a lot of the crap that causes even more lag.

Argh. Wordpress makes me so angry. It’s not Wordpress itself but the things people do with it.

So, I guess I should feel OK about stubbornly using Edge?

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The latest trend of ads: “data:image/jpeg;base64,[gobbledygook]”

Literally no way to block it whatsoever. It’s not a script, it’s not an image, it’s strictly code that loads a picture. Probably. No way it could be used to serve malicious script through an ad-blocker or anything like that, no siree!

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As a long time firefox user I find it incredibly sad that Mozilla are steadily undermining most of these points.

3. Firefox knows it’s just a browser. That integrated Hello video chat, that integrated web developer tools because Firebug was so popular (and broke Firebug in the process), and became a mobile operating system. I’m not convinced that Mozilla looks on these as mistakes. It is worth remembering that Pheonix/Firefox was created as an experiment by disgruntled staff, management was still pushing the integrated Mozilla Suite.

And with the recent shift to WebExtensions the Chrome extension standard we lose 6. Firefox allows more customization, and 8. Firefox boasts unique extensions. Just as 7. Firefox supports Chrome extensions (mostly) we will probably soon see Chrome support Firefox extensions. Due to deliberate policy choices Mozilla has removed extensions as a differentiating feature.

Sadly the last point can be rewritten as 9. Firefox can do no more than Chrome can.

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I try to use a heterogeneous collection of service providers and software platforms, just to keep the monolithic Big Brother guys like Google from having all the pieces of my existence in their control.

For instance, Google Maps knows sorta where I’ve been with my Google phone, but it has very few data points because I’m not logged in with gmail, but instead with a local ISP I’ve had since the nineties.

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Not quite. Developers love and regularly use things like that (although it’s uBlock Origin for me). It’s the marketers that hate them.

I can see developers being annoyed if they get a lot of complaints that a site doesn’t work properly with javascript turned off (via noscript). But that’s because a lot of things are relatively easy to do with javascript and are designed and budgeted with the assumption that it will be there. And of course there’s never money in the budget or time before the deadline to properly design and develop a fallback version that works without javascript. 98% of people have javascript on, so no one wants to budget for proper development. But if it doesn’t work, the developers are the ones that people complain to. But it’s not noscript that those developers hate.

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I still use it for my personal email. Haven’t ever found a reason to stop doing so. It does exactly what I need a mail client to do.

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Yeah this basically nails it for me. The browser itself is poor enough at performing I won’t switch from Chrome until Chrome drastically fucks up worse.

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3. Firefox Knows It’s Just a Browser
You mean, "Firefox Knows It's Just a Way to Advertise Mozilla."
5. Firefox Actually Cares About Privacy
You used to be able to control cookies on a granular level using Firefox. That is, you used to be able to accept or reject each cookie, and tell Firefox to accept or reject third-party cookies from specific domains over multiple websites. (So there might be some OCD involved, what about it? :-) ) Then they ripped that functionality out.

To add insult to injury, about 2 minutes after you start Firefox for the very first time, a pop-up rises from the bottom of the browser, directing you to a preferences dialog where you can choose whether or not you send telemetry back to Mozilla. Because they care so much about your goddamn privacy. (Also, see #3 above.)

9. Firefox Can Do What Chrome Can (Mostly)
Except start up and run as fast. I don't have numerical data to prove it, but over the half dozen or more Linux distros I've got installed, and Windows 10, Chrome/Chromium is ready to use more quickly than Firefox, and anecdotally loads pages faster than Firefox. And that's with essentially the same extensions installed in each.

Google is creepy in that, for example, it knows what news articles to show me based upon my browsing history. But their web browser is better than Mozilla’s.

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There are several minor reasons why I prefer FireFox, but 95% of why I use FireFox is because they still have an add-on that lets me put by tabs below the URL/Bookmarks bar (just above the webpage, but below everything else) where it belongs. I positively loathe tabs being placed at the top of the page!

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You forgot the ever-popular number 11: Exploits to compromise Firefox are so much cheaper and easier to get than ones for Chrome!

@beschizza I look forward to you sharing your results of this venture. I tried this at the beginning of the year.

I’ve always used Firefox but i moved to DuckDuckGo for my homepage and default search engine. I tried Zoho mail. Couldn’t find an adequate replacement for GDrive (adequate to my tastes at least).

I stuck with it for a good 2 months this time before reverting back to the comfortable familiarity of the Goog. Shame on me…

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All together now:

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Is there a reason not to?
Or, are there any decent alternatives, especially for managing 3 or 4 email accounts?

It’s expired? :astonished:

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