Reporter and cameraman murdered by gunman live on air

Now I’m totally going to wonder what you wrote! :wink:

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ha, wast just posting what I soon realized someone else had already posted. my browser had failed to update the page in the background like it normally does, so didn’t see the new replies.

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That’s what I figure, actually, but it gave me an excuse to post a buffy gif!

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yeah, it wasn’t something that would have made you immediately angry at all, I promise

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And too fucking many are bad.

We live in a death-worshipping cult.

To be fair… this time it could be it wasn’t that, he has claimed he is a gay man in his manifesto.
Twitter is terrible/great for early reporting/rampant speculation.

Intimate partner violence is a real and terrible thing, but we don’t know if this was prompted by that.

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yeah sorry, the horrible analogy threw me off…

true…

i am more saddened by how frequently this is true, not necessarily if this specific case was or was not.
so many horrific crimes are more likely to be perpetrated by someone known to a victim. :frowning:

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And this just popped up on my TL… a horrifying read, homicide stats are really the worst…
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/08/26/3695728/virginia-shooting-workplace-homicide/

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I agree - this event will lead to copy cats. Similar minded nut jobs come in both both black and white. Most whites don’t buy the black lives matter thing and most blacks don’t go around killing white people. This will stimulate a lot of legal gun purchases. Oh by the way, a majority of US citizens believe we are in a state of war.

What, a race war? I’m not thinking that’s what most Americans think.

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It’s a good read, but it’s another example of the weird statistics that also come up in domestic abuse stats:

Of all the incidents in which someone died at work in 2013, 9 percent were due to homicides, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ most recent data. In total, 397 people were murdered while at work.

Women are far more susceptible to being murdered at work than men. While women have a lower workplace fatality rate — there were 302 fatal workplace injuries involving female workers in 2013 — 22 percent of them involved a homicide, making it the leading cause of death. For men, just 8 percent related to a homicide.

Which would mean that of the 397 murdered people, there were over five times as many male murder victims as female ones, and women are far, far less susceptible to being murdered at work than men. The fact that that women who die a violent death have a relatively higher chance of being killed by someone they know doesn’t influence this statistic. It’s just that men are over thirteen times as likely to die from a workplace injury (including homicide).

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No, not a race war although there are rumblings from the extremeists (e.g.skinheads, black panthers) on both sides. I am talking about ISIS and other islamic extremist groups who are shifting strategy to encourage lone wolf attacks, attacks by those who go to Syria for training then return to the US and by radical cells already here.

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Of course, to bring up “this happens all the time in poor places, but it barely ever makes the news” when talking about this story isn’t really relevant… This happened live on the news. Of course it’s going to be a national news story.

[citation needed]

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Yeah, its all interwoven, like we can’t remove interpersonal violence from our culture…

That’s true. Sorry, it’s just one of those stats that gets to me - using an alarmingly large number of total victims (e.g. male homicide/workplace accident victims) to make a proportionally smaller specific category of victims (e.g. male workplace homicide/domestic violence victims) look less significant and more one-sided than it is.

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Cars are dangerous devices (and heavily regulated for that very reason), but nowhere NEAR as dangerous as guns if you compare the number of fatalities per car owner versus number of fatalities per gun owner.

Tens of thousands of Americans actively using their cars in the same place and time is called “an average weekday for an urban commuter.” Tens of thousands of Americans actively using guns in the same place and time is called “The Battle of Gettysburg.”

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CITATION: Mint Press News 9/22/2014 Timothy McGrath
Foreign Policy : the US is directly involved in at least three wars – in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia – in addition to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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I asked for a citation to your claim that a majority of US citizens believe that they are in a state of war. I see no mention of that in that Mint Press News article (I presume you mean this one).

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My point was that some number of deaths are acceptable. Around where I live, there’s a trend to raise speed limits rather than lower them (there’s an 85 mph tollway nearby). The increase in traffic fatalities is acceptable to a lot of people because the value of going faster is apparently greater than the value of the lives lost.

Likewise with guns, the value of the lost lives is lower than the value people place on access to guns.

I really don’t have a strong opinion either way mostly because I don’t think gun regulations are terribly effective. I think it’s a lot of misspent energy because it tackles a symptom rather than the disease.

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