No. I have personally seen all sides of the equation.
ā¦what about failure to sympathize with the victims of institutionalize racism/classism/sexism reinforced by slumlords and stereotypes.
If I were that would mean . . what? That you canāt quite deal with what Iām saying and that youāve descended to name-calling (which was the point of my last post in response to you.) Pretty much I see the word āconcern trollā as āI concede the point.ā Because you canāt paint me into the box that you wish me to be in, you give up. Fine. You forge ahead, tiger. Go find someone stupid to argue with.
Jebusā¦ As someone who clawed their way through business and literally saw privilege handed to meā¦ I donāt know what to say.
Apparently I already did that, now Iām stopping.
Cheers!
So . . . what about your brother in Section 8? With all that privilege going for him he must really be a large negative number to be where heās at, right? And that would of course go for all the other white people in similar situations, no. Shit, they are having easy street absolutely handed to them simply because of their complexion and they just f it all up. Beneath contempt, no?
It isnāt good. In fact it is, as I said evil.
There are a couple of tracts.
- regulation and deterrence
- education
- incentives
It will take a symphony of work
Answer there, btw, is no.
Compared to the bridge next to him, yes.
Do you want pictures of the bridge? And the skin tones living under it?
I am not trying to be a dick. And I probably donāt need anymore arguments
Going through (for my family) section 8, mental services, group homes; plus my own success just really opened my eyes.
Look: the idea is this: no one makes it on the basis of being white, pure and simple. Nobody. Why? Because there are lots of white people. More white people than there are āmade its.ā But there ARE black people who are destroyed or neglected simply because they are black. So what is the important factor here? White privilege, which fails to explain the lives of loads of white people who donāt feel theyāve got any? Or the oppression of blacks, which I can assure you vanishingly few black folk would deny as something theyāve experienced? Iām for the latter and I look askance at anyone who doesnāt see the plain fact that I see. White privilege is a counter-intuitive concept thatās designed to be such. It is more or less a brickbat for soc teachers to beat their oh so disappointing white suburban students. But, outside of college, soc. teachers donāt have the whip in their hand. The way you get white folks who wonāt understand to understand is through empathy, not through trying to make them feel guilty.
Letās continue this in another thread.
Non-argumentatively. Iām identifiable, so I canāt go into the details of my own background, but suffice it to say it isnāt so very far from yours. What I found enlightening wasnāt explaining my relative success, it was explaining the rest of the family, and their courses through life. We grew up with black and hispanic peers as friends, lovers, workmates, etc. and by and large they made out worse than us. But to look at all the people who grew up never doubting for one second that they were going to college, and that daddy could get them a job whether they got through college or not. Thatās privilege, my man. Not getting thrown out of high school, getting drafted during Vietnam, getting out, getting committed, getting arrested and beaten by the cops serving time and then finally working 60 hours a week for years on end at menial jobs to make things work for your family. Thatās not a life of privilege. And to hell with anyone who says it is. Thatās not my life, but Iāve seen that. And to hell with anyone who says how privileged that life is. Because it isnāt. Not to say it wouldnāt have been nastier & shorter were the person black, but that white person is no more privileged that blacks who arenāt aborted are privileged. Itās just an asinine use of the word that we shouldnāt even have to talk about anymore.
No, Iām afraid nothing you wrote actually constituted an argument, so even if I were stupid, you havenāt actually argued. Sorry!
We just need to have a beer together. We are slicing each other othogananly, when I donāt think we need to.
So very trueā¦in my 10 years in Japan Iāve become much much less sensitive to this stuff.
Nah. Sorry for the sharp. Respect. I see where youāre coming from. Though it may not sound it, if we disagree, on my side it is respectfully. I am cutting, maybe, because I actually do care what you think. But, anyhow: peace and an end to the cause of this discussion.
Fixed that for you, buddy.
Oh cry me a river. Let me guess: white guy? Well, I guess you have the privilege of just ignoring this discussion or its implications in your daily lifeā¦unlike my gay or, for example, Hispanic friends.
There, fixed that for you too.