Softbans

To danegeld -

Does your Softbans post exist due to the banning of M-O? Is your post here related in some way to yesterday’s discussion regarding that ban, titled ‘Banning of modusoperandi’? Thank you.

The issue is that four decidedly/typically ‘non-troll’ people including ModusOperandi got banned yesterday. It’d be cool if the editors here had a way of telling someone ‘leave my thread alone’ without also needing to ban whoever’s annoyed them outright. It would preserve the community and allow de-escalation, was my thought.

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They did just that.

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I tend to agree. This applies to other members as much as the Authors, in fact, as we’ve mediated more than a few discussions between BBS members where the mutual decision of “don’t post in my topics” had been agreed to. I can see a definite use case for preventing certain replies in certain topics.

I’d also advocate for a “block” option where you simply do not see replies from those on your list, though that’s probably a thorny issue (what about direct replies? Or quoted ones?)

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Guys, let’s not …

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I assumed “Softbans” were some kind of padded sunglasses.

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Yup. Except the discussion here is obviously about degrees of freedom to operate under that aegis. Which is most welcome.


That’s not fair. He’s obviously interjecting with some humour in an attempt to soften the rhetoric here and remind everyone we are friends attempting to design and build a community from inside itself.

The spirit of cooperation can’t be rules-lawyered into existence.

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Just sarcasm, boys!

Sarcasm.

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Right back at you. It’s my only mode of existence right now.

(I meant what I said, I was just pretending not to understand your motivation so I could say it).

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They can and they did, but the problem is what happens when the mod is ignored? If the only escalation is the outright ban then we still end up with a diminished community when someone oversteps the line once, despite them having plenty of track record of navigating it properly in the past.

I think the number of people with white disc avatars this evening indicates that there’s a general feeling that banning for derailing is too harsh, given that part of the fun of the BBS is everyone riffing on ideas and eventually derailing threads in an amusing manner anyway. It’d be good to create some middle ground. Just my 2c.

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I was wondering about all the white discs.

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I often have a similar though about society in general, just without that first ‘s’ and an extra ‘k’ in the last word

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Maybe… don’t ignore the mod next time?

If the suspensions are reasonably short perhaps just wait a bit, and try again?

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That ‘if’ there is pretty much the central hub of conversation here. We can only hope it is actualised.

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Those are qualitative terms from a metics guy. Which end does a decade fall on?

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If the suspensions are too long, that’s an entirely different matter outside software features.

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Right, it’s just that behavioral norms are shaped by the tools available to censure people for acting outside of them. If the the only punishment for all crimes was death, it would not prevent nor discourage crime. Allowing a moderator to freeze out a “special” snowflake from a topic after failing to adhere to these norms may prove conducive to good community behavior.

Hey, look, there’s even an icon for that eventual button: http://fontawesome.io/icon/snowflake-o/

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As mentioned in a test thread, I now have a working script to automatically Like the posts of people you directly enable it on. Runs in Greasemonkey and Tampermonkey. Haven’t run a benchmark on it yet, but it should have negligible impact on render speeds. It can also run while the mute script runs.

https://github.com/tinoesroho/discourse-scripts/raw/master/autolove.user.js

I just wonder if you couldn’t have one of those ‘two key’ launch features to make the truly extravagant bans a bit more effort, e.g. a click through alert:

combined with a ‘kick from my thread’ button which is simple to use.

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