Students fight false accusations from AI-detection snake oil

It’s not much fun for the educators either. It can be mentally exhausting to read through a pile of student assignments in the best of circumstances, but it’s even more dispiriting when you have to read through assignments that the students didn’t even bother to write.

If AI has any truly valuable contributions to make in the world of education then I haven’t seen them yet.

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Yeah, one degree program that I worked with required an introductory essay as part of your application process. We ended up with a few students in the program who literally could not write at all. Some internet sleuthing revealed that they were using an online service that does exactly that - you just enter your personal details and the site generates a standard introductory letter.

So, yeah, we started having students write a short, one-page essay in person, with pen and paper, on a fairly bland “what I did last summer” kind of thing. It was an allied health program, so students would be charting and taking notes by hand, anyway. It really made us re-think how much written vs Word doc assignments we wanted them to do.

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What about people who have repetitive stress injuries, though?

Non-viable “solution” is non-viable.

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That is where a lot of the cloud document services shine. The entire editing history of the document is available at a glance, including which user edited what and when. Total revision recall.

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Well done Eire!

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I guess “show your work” will not be used exclusively in mathematics anymore

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I feel gross writing this right now, but it would be one if any use cases for microsoft’s Recall “feature.” They may have even seen this coming a mile away.

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Google Docs give you nearly infinite version back capability.

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I think a good way for reinging in AI is to find a way to make AI companies pay for more for the ever increasing amount of energy AI is consuming. In general, energy is way too cheap compared to the impact it has on the environment anyway. Once we price it accordingly, AI (and all that crypto crap, too) will be significantly impacted.

People have all kinds of conditions that make certain things hard or impossible for them, and institutions must simply provide alternatives for those people. So unless a large number of people are affected by repetitive stress injuries, that does not imply that the idea is non-viable, it’s merely incomplete, and needs more work.

For now that might be helpful, but maybe not for long.

I’m fairly certain that once people use the editing history of a cloud service as proof that their content does not come from AI, there will be an AI that types and revises text into the cloud service just as a human would, while Netflix is running in the foreground :wink:

And then you will have AI going over the cloud service logs to determine whether or not the content was written by AI, and we’ll face the same false positives.

This is an uphill battle, we’re fucked unless we find an approach that thoroughly prevents the use of AI without having to rely on AI.

Just use AI to transcribe it :wink:

I think you’re joking, but that is a slippery slope. There already is similar “technology” for online assessments for certain certifications. Before you take the test, you have to install software on your laptop that reports what processes you are running, and records your screen and keyboard and mouse input (and tracks your ever movements, IIRC), and you have to turn your camera around the room so that the interviewer can see there are no phones nearby, no additional screens, and nobody hidden under the table etc., and they record you through the webcam to assess you focus closely as you fill in the test and answer questions. Headphones are forbidden, too, I think.

A fried of mine had to go through that, it’s is a massive invasion of privacy, a security risk, and a general shit show. I sure hope that’s not becoming the standard for education.

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It’s possible; with the advent of Covid and at home learning there’s been an overall increase in people afflicted with repetitive stress of the wrists due to a lack of proper ergonomic setup.

Oh, was your comment meant to be humorously critical?

That completely missed me; my bad.

Good day.

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I had to do that for a recent grad program. You schedule an appointment, and a human test proctor makes sure you’re not cheating.

My college has a different software for homework and exams, which is not monitored by human, and just examines your work area, makes sure you’re not moving your arm away from the keyboard, and so on. It will lock your assessment and report the issue if you do it too many times.

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