white america right now be like:
so yeah, fuck White America.
what the fuck is wrong with capital w White Americans?
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They’re afraid that the crimes their ancestors or they visited upon others will be visited upon them?
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To be the devil’s advocate, and what if that federal or state land was gained by crushing another minority…?
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They’re afraid that they really aren’t special?
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They’re afraid they’ll get chased off, have “their” women raped, lose land, prestige, status, and have to pretend like the rest of us are human…
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Abso-fucking-lutely; the only difference now is that the chains are on our minds, and it’s no longer just Black people who are mentally enslaved.
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I love Dave Chappelle, but that skit did immeasurable damage to real progressivism, and I strongly suspect was one of the skits that led to his crisis of conscience about what was mostly an amazing show.
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I’m sort of confused as to why this comment by Ingraham isn’t making front-page news. We got three days (and counting) of hysterical finger pointing in the MSM after Joe Biden used the word ‘boy’ when talking about himself, but apparently one of the most prominent hosts of Fox News can openly declare that white people enslaving black people in America was “a conquest” and say “we won, you lost” to black people, and there’s no outcry whatsoever.
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Interestingly, no one in this 100-plus topic mentioned the counter-arguments provided by Hughes.
Interestingly, nobody mentioned the arguments as to why concentration camps in America re totally a good thing, y’all.
Coleman Hughes core arguement is that It WaS So LoNG ago. Like his fellow Quillette editor Ngo, Hughes thinks the real problem is that not enough minorities are willing to do that hard work of bootlicking forever just to reach a baseline of “success” Hughes can take his segregation, redlining, slavery, vote-stealing apalogia and shove it.
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Hughes: we need to restructure society
also hughes: rEPaTrIaTiOn BaD
Hughes ignores the whole blacks not being able to build up generational funds, the predatory finance tricks banks used to keep blacks down, and the fact that lynchings were a Sunday sport in the south well last MLK Jr days.
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Fuck Quillette, a publication infamous for blaming societal problems and ongoing injustice on the people pointing out injustice.
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Wow, the comment section on that piece essentially blames black people for being undereducated. Despite, you know, white people deliberately and systematically making education unaffordable and ubatainable for the cast majority.
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Quillette, eh? Let me guess: Hughes is a pundit who portrays himself as an independent and objective thinker and non-aligned centrist because he doesn’t have the courage to call himself what (by the evidence of his arguments) he really is: a Libertarian. Quillette is Reason Magazine for intellectual cowards who think they’re fooling everyone.
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I think the key is to make it instinctive to also think the next thought, “Well, I also didn’t do anything to earn the advantages I did get in this life, and without those we’d all still be living like hunter-gatherers.”
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Calling his statements counter-arguments is overly generous.
Hughes: “Reparations by definition are only given to victims, so the moment you give me reparations, you’ve made me into a victim without my consent."
Thats is some amazingly asinine mental judo. He’s not a victim unless Congress says he is, and its more important that he not be called a victim than that people not be victimized.
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The same as everyone else should pay, but nice try.
You think that there’s a widespread lack of access to capital by white people who can trace their ancestry back to the civil war AND the winning side?
Because our mainstream news outlets suck and would rather worry about not offending “both sides”. They’ll instead spend fucking weeks tying themselves in knots about whether or not we should call these concentration camps and likely take someone like AOC to task for using the terminology.
That is exactly where we are, I’m afraid.
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At least we agree that everybody should pay the same.
Everybody should pay zero. Behold the power of zero.
I just happen to have been thinking about reparations for about five years now, and have some ideas:
- Due to the paperwork, we shouldn’t try to make reparations for slavery. We should make reparations to all people descended from persons considered black during Jim Crow America. Any place in the nation, though, not just segregated states. That way, it will be much less of a burden on those who need and deserve reparations-there were birth and death certificates in 1950; for instance. Plus, if your black ancestor happened to immigrate to the USA in the 20th century and your family’s financial situation does nothing to distinguish you as having no known trafficked people as direct ancestors, you’d still be eligible.
- There are some things that can never be mended. Generations of human kidnappers and traffickers committing crimes against humanity for over a hundred years with the state’s backing could be one. If the reparations were for the modern terror, exploitation, exclusion and discrimination, the conversation might be about more of the same things that are still being levied against black people in the US.
- Avoiding holding individuals responsible for doing some heavy research and potentially anguishing family histories might be better. If one had to produce documentation of who their trafficked ancestors were, it could create a system where few dollars actually get paid out, but white people with scummy insides could rail on about how every black person is getting checks. A bureaucratic burden could also pave the way for predatory ‘ancestor finder’ services which would take a chunk of the due reparations for those black people unable to do investigative work themselves. Plus, there’s a level of institutional violence inherent in the possibility of your trafficked ancestor not being recognized by some official body, where the decision will likely be made by the descendants of white people.
- I think a good dollar amount would be just enough to be an official member of the middle class, in cash, monthly. I’ll feel it’s working when we see lots of black people at the top of Machu picchu and lots of black young adults doing a gap year between France and Morocco and crap.
- A duration guideline for me would be that reparations should be paid for either three generations, or until every citizen alive the day the first checks were mailed is no longer of this mortal coil. Whichever is longer.
Caveat- I don’t know anything about anything I’m talking about, other than living in a country where the government pays reparations to 20th century victims of state sponsored terrorism, so the actual ins and outs of filing the forms and getting the money is real and present in the lives of people around me and also I just like thinking about implementation. Also I’m white, so grain of salt.
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Behold the lack of power in Libertarian arguments. We can only all agree to pay zero if some of us haven’t already paid. And one side racked up a hell of a debt. Try doing that with a credit card and paying zero.
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