The forgotten kingpins who conspired to save California wine


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#2

I wonder if the same guy would be imprisoned if he destroyed a half-billion dollars’ worth of cat piss? I mean, on the one hand, it’s only cat piss, but on the other hand, whoa, it’s a half-billion dollars’ worth!

(Cue that guy with the pink avatar to tell us that wine and cat piss are really the same thing.)


#3

“forgotten” is the key word here…


#4

That would be Budweiser and cat’s piss.

No hang on, that’s horse piss isn’t it? Heineken so.


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Not strictly on topic but what really stood out for me in the old American menus and wine lists posted here recently, apart from the amount of sweet/liquor wines, oh and breakfast wine, was how the American wines cost the same as European ones, which I wouldn’t have imagined would have been the case until a good bit later.

This is not a yurp running down 'merkin wine - I’ve had some fabulous wines from the U.S. though I generally can’t afford to drink US wine as a good bottle does cost a bit more than something more local and the cheap stuff isn’t to my taste.


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And “Conspired” makes it seem shady, when the truth seems to be far more straightforward and mundane.


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Possibly this is to do with exchange rates overriding transportation costs. I can’t find any good tables quickly tonight, but as I recall from Innocents Abroad, Twain found Europe absurdly cheap at that time (roughly the mid 1800’s, similar to the menus posted). This is completely conjecture on my part, but is a possible explanation.


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Check out Winehaven, just north of the Richmond/San Rafael bridge on point molate. I was fascinated by this turreted castle-like warehouse and the surrounding houses when looking for a place to walk the dog.


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hey @jlw - have you read Tangled Vines yet?

I just picked up a couple of copies to read along with my favourite step-sister-in-law, because the blurbs make it seem like a dramatacized historical, along the lines of Devil in the White City. I’ve only just picked it up to read, but am excited so far.


#10

Don’t worry! I will protect you from this unconvivial upstart!

This book sounds interesting to me. I was involved on the periphery of the wine business for a while, and would like to read it.


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