Because the bus stop is paid for and maintained by public tax money, taxes that many of these companies are exempt from paying by virtue of either sweetheart tax deals, operating in a different city/county than the public facilities theyâre using, and/or sheltering their money in overseas hidey-holes.
Because MUNI is already the worst public transit system in the US in terms of speed and on-time arrivals, and having private shuttles stopping in their designated stops only makes that problem worse.
Because if Google and Apple and eBay can do it, why canât the airport transit van? Why canât the half-dozen hop on/hop off tou bus companies do it? Why canât the tourist buses from out of town do it? Why canât the shuttles from UCSF Medical Center do it? Suddenly the bus stops are a parking lot and the transportation system breaks down even further.
Didnât know thatâŚthanks. (Not a Californian.)
Wouldnât it be interesting to be able to track down the folks today that harassed the protesters with such glee back then?
I live in San Francisco:
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Tech buses pay their fair share. If you and I can get a ticket for idling/parking in a bus stop, so should the buses. I would suggest lots of citizen complaints to MTA about them blocking infrastructure. The buses are infringing on ADA rights, a well-backed disabled person effected by their blockage of public bus stops could sue the SHIT out of them. So could the city if there was political will.
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Raise the re-location amount that landlords are forced to pay tenants during a âno-faultâ eviction. Itâs currently $4700 per person with an additional $3100 for seniors/disabled/persons with kids. Thatâs already very high, but if it were in the 8-10k range for EACH tenant, it dramatically lessens the incentive to evict good tenants. Imagine a regular mom&pop landlord thinking of evicting but looking at +30k in relocation fees⌠not gonna happen. Imagine that times 25 in a large building theyâre looking to âEllis.â Nope.
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Relax some of the building restrictions and NIMBY protecting elements that make it so impossible to build anything here. I canât name specifics because I donât know a lot about development, but none of the above, or any amount of anti-tech vitriol sidesteps the hard fact that this city needs to add thousands of units of housing every year to keep up with demand. It needed it when the economy was down and needs it even more now.
Before anyone can build thousands of units, the infrastructure has to exist. Buildings donât exist in a vacuum - the water, gas, sewer, and power grids have to be able to keep up. There must be enough trucks to haul away solid waste and recycling. Setting all NIMBY issues aside, you canât just knock down some houses and build 3 to 10 story apartment buildings.
Thatâs very true. There is, however, a surprising amount of vacant space in dense parts of the city, some of which is being developed into housing right now. But a lot of the housing thatâs being built seems aimed at high income folks, which makes sense because itâs probably very expensive to build here. Again I donât know much about development, but itâs the only long-term solution. Probably will never happen because representative government is usually more reactive than proactive.
your dreams sound like trash to me . Wishing for the death of people who inhabitate the same space you USED TO , pretty lame sounding to me but then again I am just a succesful 30 year old business owner born in SF living here hioping to not see peoples homes burned down and family memebers crushed to death again , but hey I must be some over inflated tech white male , right ? I am none of those things actually , just a self made minority living and prospering .
Ah, yes, the old âif you donât like the current editorial direction, kindly fuck offâ.
Could you tell that to the people who gripe every time Mark Frauenfelder posts about pinups? I like the old-timey pinups, myself. Not sure why pinups automatically equals misogyny, myself, but whatevs.
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Ah. And with that, things are clear to me now. Youâre too young to have perspective on this subject.
You must have been barely a teen (a tween?) during the Prieta Loma, and perhaps that was a traumatic experience for you. For that, I am sorry. And sure, I feel for the 60 odd people that lost their lives, the 1000+ injured, etc.But as perspective, that was an act of nature.
No one to blame but the tectonic plates.
But this was not the willful destruction of communities, culture, done in the name of greed. Perhaps you donât care to consider the hundreds of thousands of people that lost their homes, their businesses, their communities and sense of belonging over the last two decades? A great majority of them also minorities? Not your problem, Iâm sure, you being a âsuccessful self-made minorityâ business owner. And given your age, perhaps you are just simply not capable of understanding, as all you can see is what appears to be status quo. You didnât witness it, and I suspect your success makes you willfully ignorant to the history of the community that you thrive in.
Be careful of what youâre selling, and to whom. Because when them come for your home, your place of business, I hope you have a community to fight on your side.
I donât know⌠Iâve lived in the rural south and these tend to not be pleasant people. Iâm sure some of them are remorseful to some degree, others still insist they were fighting some good fight, though they are more likely to couch it in terms of states rights now. Of course, there are probably tons whoâd deny their involvement at all.
yeah, that was the ârealâ purpose of prop 13 - commercial property owners were tired of paying taxes. the steady erosion of the tax base has hurt california badly. keep in mind also that corporations never die and tend to own property for a very, very long time so the properties never get sold nor reassessed. and there are all kinds of loopholes in this law allowing people to keep the same basis in the property even when it is sold. the net result is that the property tax burden in california shifted from corporations to individual homeowners since prop 13 was enacted.
Also, for anyone outside of the Bay Area who thinks that this Fake Google Guy was some kind of overblown stereotype and not really something actual tech people would espouse:
http://valleywag.gawker.com/happy-holidays-startup-ceo-complains-sf-is-full-of-hum-1481067192/
You can preach compassion, equality, and be the biggest lover in the world, but there is an area of town for degenerates and an area of town for the working class. There is nothing positive gained from having them so close to us. Itâs a burden and a liability having them so close to us. Believe me, if they added the smallest iota of value Iâd consider thinking different, but the crazy toothless lady who kicks everyone that gets too close to her cardboard box hasnât made anyoneâs life better in a while.
Itâs worth pointing out that he deleted that post within a few hours, apologized, and opened a discussion. Hereâs a couple relevant links -
You make it sound like an invading army of conquerors with bloody swords. Itâs just people who want a place to live like any other people.
Oh boo hoo, welcome to the cycle of cities. A âcreative classâ gets priced out of one neighbourhood, and they move to another. Itâll happen there as well. Thatâs kind of the beauty of it though, new places, new mix of people, new ideas, new scenes.
yup, that âneighborhoodâ is Oakland. Another city altogether.
As quaint as that sounds, when put that way, ask anyone whoâs lived there for 2 decades who had an illegal eviction uproot them and destroy their lives if it didnât feel like a hostile occupation. To have your lifes work ripped away from you because the out-of-towners wanted your spot.
These are not just âany other peopleâ.
Oh, so he apologized when faced with public shame, and perhaps revenue loss.
Heâs probably a really cool guy actually.