Isn’t the use of “Hillary” partly due to her own doing? She seems to branding herself as Hillary, not Clinton. Probably partly to separate herself from her husband? Her campaign logo is the H with the arrow. Every bumper sticker I see (and IIRC in 2008 too) says “Hillary”. “I’m with Hillary”. The front page of her site says, “Find out how much Hillary’s college plan will save you.”
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Captain Obvious moment: flawed example is flawed.
Even if she weren’t dead, she’d still be ineligible, considering that she was an Israeli citizen, not an American one.
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Nobody sensible would argue against “not voting for Hillary is not necessarily sexist”, but I think that the main idea has been diluted (the thread is rather long now). The point is that latent sexism guides public discourse and rhetoric. You can draw your own conclusions on how this would effect an election between a male and female candidate, but I think it’s easy enough to see why it might bias votes against the female candidate. The author gives plenty of good arguments on why Hillary might suffer / be suffering under this bias.
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I’m trying to figure out when this became a thing in US politics… Why do we need to want to drink a beer with someone to vote for them?
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“someone like” Golda Meir.
I first recall hearing or reading that idea expressed in the context of G.W. Bush during the 2000 presidential campaign, and I seem to recall some dark rumor then of his alcoholism. It was a ridiculous meme for selecting a national leader and just a preview of the national presidential campaign inanity to follow in more recent years.
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He is alive, after a battle with BRAIN CANCER, even!!! In fact, he was giving a talk today (or yesterday - they talked about it on the local NPR affiliate today) to a group of black and white clergy over at Emory University here in the ATL. But he hasn’t really left GA since he got brain cancer (and apparently beat it).
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To be fair, it would be a landmark event, electing a woman to the presidency. Just like electing Obama was a big deal.
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My position is that if someone makes a moral equivocation between a person’s Wall Street ties/cronyism and a person advocating racist persecution, you might be coming from a place of privilege with some unexamined racist premises worth checking. There probably isn’t a whole lot for us to discuss here, though, since I’ve just been reiterating minor variations of that for a while now.
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Leslie and Hermione would NEVER EVER have a secret meeting with Wall Street types and then not disclose the transcript while insisting they were not hiding anything.
Paris would do anything to get what she wanted.
I reserve liking and affection for people I fully trust.
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The same as not voting? Not in the least.
If one votes green, this will appear in exit polls, and demonstrates that a few percent of the electorate are both supportive towards left-leaning policies and motivated enough to go to the polls. If nobody did, nothing would be shown but the fact that a few percent more have decided to forgo the process altogether, becoming part of a group with no particular goals or political aspirations visible to the parties that want their votes. Overall, voting green is tantamount to wagging an extra three percent of the vote in front of mainline democrats, if only they pander towards these individuals with their policies. At least, that’s how I see it. Capeesh?
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I posit the problem is with business as usual, and the fact Bernie’s light at the end of the tunnel was extinguished.
Damn you all to hell.
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FFS, this is exactly the kind of smug nanny scolding that makes so many people dislike the Democratic Party. OF COURSE disliking Hillary is prima facie evidence of some personal disorder. QED.
Essentially what Clinton is saying is that the stiltedness of her public persona is a kind of self-preservation tactic born out of years of brutal misogyny.
Or as it’s called otherwise, politics. The real tragedy is that she has to represent a party who’s liberal base doesn’t like the ‘triangulation’ strategy that the 'business wing of the Democratic Party has to appease.
To counter, please compare her ‘stilted’ behavior with the hoi polloi with the rip roaring funster she appears to be when palling around with Goldman Sachs and the Davos crowd.
Protip to BoingBoing: This is not the kind of material you should post if you are trying to win over swing voters. Kthkbai!
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There is a lot of opinion polling done, and there are many ways to express one’s views and concerns to politicians. Using a vote as a polling mechanism or a form of self-expression is not what it’s for (though of course this only matters in swing states).
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I didn’t say that.
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It’s not about being “afraid” of Trump, it’s about recognising that the Trail of Tears and Japanese Internment were two of the most shameful periods in your nation’s history and recognising your moral responsibility to make sure nothing like that ever happens again, by making sure that someone who openly advocates deportation policies doesnt even get within spitting distance of the White House.
You shouldn’t be scared of him, you should be embarrassed and ashamed that your fellow countrymen are even considering voting for him, and you should be angry enough to want to stop a candidate with ties to neo Nazis and the KKK from becoming president.
If the racism isn’t enough by itself (it really, really should be) think back to Dubya’s time and remember how much the rest of the planet mocked and reviled Americans for voting him in. Do you really want to have to go back to pretending to be Canadian to stop people laughing at you in public again?
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Yes, because that’s exactly what happened after 2000: the dems moved to the left. Now, excuse me: I need to get back to said alternate reality that never really happened.
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This times 100 million.
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