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True, but most pro-gun zealots (not all gun owners, obviously, but a small, outspoken number of them) donât really care about a âwell-regulated militia.â I mean, sure, they respect the troops and all, but - really - they just want to shoot their AKâs in the air and go âWhee!â
I mean, you could go on about âhuntingâ and âtraditionâ and âhome defenseâ, but the fact of the matter is that - when it comes to their âGod-given rightâ to own military grade weaponry - it has a lot more to do with shooting your AK in the air and going âWhee!â, because they can, because f**k you, hippies.
Because - I mean - banning guns wouldnât stop bad people from having them. We know that, weâre not children. We also know that you can still murder people with a hunting knife, or poison, and we understand that home defense is a big reason why gun owners own guns, but when it comes to the âholy s**t, itâs legal to own THAT?â type-of-gun, you know, the ones used in Newtown and Aurora, which were purchased legally; the ones used in most of your mass shootings, which happen almost nowhere else in the civilized world⌠be honest. Itâs mostly about shooting your AK in the air and going âWhee!â right?
And that has nothing to do with a âwell-regulated militia.â
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Show me where you can legally buy a fully auto AK-47 in the United States today. Not a semi-automatic replica.
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Eyes Wide Shut is⌠frankly, kind of boring. But he was one of the best directors, for sure.
Oh, you should check out a documentary I saw not too long ago, which is not about kubrick, but does talk about Apocalypse Now is Machete Maidens Unleashed, which talks about Roger Cormanâs production company which filmed in the Philippines⌠it opened the door for Kubrick to be able to film AN thereâŚ
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And by Kubrick, you mean Coppola?
Oh yeah⌠sorry. That was dumb of me, wasnât itâŚ
Scratch all I said!
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Still a worthwhile documentary from what Iâve heard.
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Itâs a cartoon, not a treatise. Itâs supposed to function as an intuition pump. I think you just disagree with a basic premise. Which is fine, but it doesnât mean the cartoon objectively sucks.
ETA: Iâll just leave this here,
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I recently came across this book review in the Baffler. (I was looking for their take on Trump, but alas, no witticisms)
Have Guns, Will Liberate. Inside the civic theology of arms-bearing
Interesting stuff!
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To many of you: (not necessarily to whom I responded)
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are restrictions on government to respect the innate and natural rights we all obtain from existence, having managed to survive to some sort of adulthood. Or verbal childhood. This was once taught in an ancient tradition in this country, called, âCivicsâ. It was taught in public schools up until the late '60âs. It should be continued but it is subversive. It gives people power by making the story a shared story.
The bill of Rights is a basic and not limited list of what the government (Oligarchical or Representative, I care not) MAY NOT infringe. All rights are reserved to the individual.
It is not a list of rights as in one from column A and one from column B, so choose what you think convenient.
Your right to spew nonsense like on this blog, for example.
Your right to privacy in your person.
Your right to safety on the street (including from âauthorityâ, and more easily identified bad guys).
Your right to embrace the flying spaghetti monster or chthulu (you know who you areâŚ) without the fear that the state may decide that your particular ideation is a threat to society (the owners).
Your right to be jewish, or confederate. Violations of our rights - oh, what a treacherous self-betrayal if we do not say, âNo.â
Discard the 2nd amendment if you think it a great idea.
I will disagree forever.
Personally, I think your numbers are biased (as in total lies, damned lies, and statistics (S. Clemens) and that many of you are statists, who think that the state is wise and has our best interests at heart (like in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Ukraine, Afghanistan, guantanamo, the Arctic oil business, and so forth - unicorn-y, I say⌠That many of you want to control others, and think you could do a pretty bang-up job⌠I think that there are several instances where you would do well to draw counsel to be more reserved about disarming yourself.
Warsaw, the ghettos.
James Jones, and the disappeareds of South and Central and North America.
Crystal Night.
Pol Pot.
Stalin.
Hoover and the Bonus Army (look it up), 1932.
Nazis.
Massacred Native __________ (fill in the blank)
A militia is a group of citizens joining together for mutual support and assistance, and uniting to defend their lives, liberty and fortune, from those who would take it. If you think our social structure will remain all unicorn-y and flower filled (which it is most emphatically not), I hope you are right. You arenât but whatever. The future is not shiny.
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It really is. If youâve not seen it, I highly recommend it.
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Hmmm, I think Lincoln would disagree.
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Easy remedy. Donât ask for permissions, just do it.
Having an armed populace isnât always a solution to state power/violence:
Well look at you and your big words.
Never too early to make a good first impression, is it
Careful with that dog whistle though
Last time I checked, nation states were not going anywhere. You could maybe make the one you live in better, or you could make it worse. If you think youâre going to make it disappear, then hey good luck with that. Speaking of spewing nonsense.
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Lincoln had no lock on truth. He, however, was entitled to disagree with
me. I donât mind. He is dead, too. Watch what you put in his mouthâŚ
Did the South not call him the great tyrant? While he had charms, he also
was complex; he was a politician, and a lawyer. That is suspicious from the
go. He was not godly, he was human.
We got nowhere oppressing each other in the 1860âs, in the name of
uncertain safety or righteous indignation, left right or âcenterâ whatever
that is. And, amusingly, slavery was on the way out, replaced by coal and
oil, - one barrel of oil equals the manpower of 11 men for 1 year. A slave
male in 1850 was what - a thousand dollars? That was a fortune, and set you
up for food, shelter, clothing, supervision, health care, family planning
and breeding, transportation and management. On its way O U T. WAY too
expensive for energy return on energy invested.
And what was the civil war about then? As always, resources and who will
control them.
I am not a confederate, or a conservative. I live far from the South by
choice. I am a conscientious objector with Heero medals (or WAS a CO, long
ago - I have changed), and a veteran, and a lot of other community involved
things from public health to government oversight - probably more than YOU.
I am invested, however, in our contract â the Constitution of the United
States. I am really invested, because like all my brother and sister
veterans back in my day, we took civics, and when *we signed that
contract (which held us criminally and capitally liable for our behaviour)
we swore to protect and defend the constitution of our country, from all
enemies, foreign and domestic, to our last dying breath, and we knew what
that meant⌠*
Ever take a really powerful and binding oath, and then abide by it? To our
commonality - or at least to the laws and righteous regulations thereof.
And consider this: to intelligently honour and respect a huge contract
obligation requires that you think about it and do so correctly and with
good will, and not honour unlawful or unethical orders from superior
officers, and not violate others. To do a good job you must think.
Is the cartoon well drawn? Yes. Is the author frequently clever? Yes. Does
it accurately represent an idea to hold it to scrutiny? There is the rub. I
have seen better, from him.
And I despise the shallowness of the current âdeepâ analysis of the evil
of weapons. It is not deep. It is about being afraid. It is knee jerk, and
involves the tyranny of the majority. Oh, I am sooo afraid! Bogeymen rise
from your media saturated and hyped fantasies and I think you would do well
to pay attention to less TV and more gardening, or reading.
I would suggest you get a firearm, go to a good class, practice with it
diligently, and become capable of defending yourself and your interests.
Except in certain insane states (NY, CA, NJ, MA, IL, etc.) where people
figure the police are their friends and will always help them, and find
their parents, and their bicycles, and their stolen cars and such, and the
clear message that governments of such places make clear is that they
cannot and must not trust their citizens (after all, they voted for them,
the idiots)⌠how disrespectful; do you put up with it? Take a minute and
go reread some Doctorow and some Orwell.
Never to be a bully, but to be at peace. Ironic, eh? You may never know.
When seconds count, the police are just minutes awayâŚ
For a site which espouses technological resistance to the forces of
oppression and control via stories like âLittle Brotherâ then chooses to
side with disarming the citizenry in the name of safety and security is
insanely two-faced, and you guys need to just stop it. Unless, of course,
you are all so full of bs that you could not possibly defend yourself.
Your neighbors or defenders can only battle off so many oppressors before
they overwhelm them. Where are you? Behind them or beside them?
Violence is used by the state as well as by individual actors, and more
have been killed by the state than by bad guys. Ferguson, Bland in Texas,
University of Cincinnati, and that is only a few of the black control
problems.
Over the top? Only until it isnât.
Good night, America.
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Said the people who thought slavery a moral goodâŚ
A resource known as slavesâŚ
Thank you. Seriously, thanks for your service. If only you had a government which cared enough to take care of you.
Clarity on âblack control problemsâ?
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Wow, I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Youâve earned your likes todayâŚ
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I hope I earn them everyday, actually.
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