Trump's FCC relies on telcos to self-police anti-robocall measures and they're planning on gutting existing regs, so John Oliver is robocalling the whole FCC every 90 minutes

nope - if you already have a biz relationship with somebody you can give them permission to call you. You can’t do that with somebody you’ve never spoken to before.

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You’re missing the point and I think it is obvious you do not understand marketing and I have zero desire to explain it. Have a nice day.

For a more modern communication system.

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Properly used it might also deliver hot coffee?

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No, I mean why didn’t John Oliver give out the committee’s numbers. Are you suggesting that John Oliver is spoofing his source number to further frustrate them? That would be great, but I doubt it.

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I know what you meant, and agree.
I am suggesting that, yea. It’s pretty easy to spoof numbers over VOIP.

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So, if one of the telcos make a serious effort to crack down on this, and actually stopped the robocalls–wouldn’t that give them a HUGE advantage in the marketplace? I mean, I know I’d be likely to switch.

Or does the system mentioned only work if everyone does it, and the government is involved?

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I got Jerry Ford once.

The spam texts I’ve been getting are from short codes. Sometimes (ostensibly) different companies use the same short code. They always started off with “Raissa.” It’s stopped since last week, though.

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I understand what you are saying - I am distinguishing cold-call marketing from prior relationship marketing. I am talking about prohibiting one, and making strict permission for the other. Have your own nice day.

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The problem becomes if you want to, say, set a preference like “no calls from unrelated businesses, and, no calls for new business from existing businesses I deal with”, that “unrelated” can be gamed (and is now), and “new business” can be gamed too “Adding insurance to your credit card isn’t new business, it’s a feature of your existing business!”, which IMHO leads to useless laws where “pre-existing relationship” has to be vague and nonspecific, making enforcement difficult.

I, too, like having, say, my phone company call every few months to go over my plan and whether or not my plan is still optimized for my usage patterns, but then they use that “relationship” to try and sell me other services, despite repeatedly telling them I don’t want them. But they can’t remove me from those lists, because I’m a customer.

It’s frustrating and annoying, and creates this mess of no one answering their phones unless they recognize the caller. Authenticated caller-id will help in determining which calls to answer, but IMHO I don’t think it will actually reduce the volume of robocalls. You’re just going to know which of your business relationships to be grumpy at. :confused:

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Yeah, I saw that. I get it.

It’s possible for a mimic to get away with this BS one-on-one, but if this kind of criminality is going to scale up it’s more likely to be automated.

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I tried an app called wideprotect. It lets you block all numbers from a given area code, except those in your contacts. It has improved my phone dramatically. (It helps that the area code I live in is different from my phone’s area code)

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Basically, as I understand it, each carrier has to get the relevant data from the carrier originating the call, so it would have to be everyone doing it, or else you could only get calls from people on your carrier. I’m not an expert, though.

I liked the shout out to Neverland. It’s in my neighbourhood and my daughter loves the place. When she was little, she’d get dressed up in a fancy dress and go to high tea with my mother in-law. My daughter got juice and desserts, and my mother in-law got champagne. What’s not to love? (I’ve never been, though.)

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Some of them are now harvesting call history, or stealing contacts, or something. I’ve gotten robocalls with the caller ID showing my boss’s number.

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Yep. I’ve had robo calls from myself.

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Would like to point out that robocalls are not much of a problem on Skype or similar services.

As in, you cannot spoof a skype username. The problem is the telephone system. The only reason we still use the telephone system instead of something else is because we are used to it.

The answer will be, eventually, some sort of voice service will become universal enough–and require account authentication.

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I received a robocall (from my local area code, left no voicemail) as soon as I finished reading the first couple of comments on this post.

I don’t answer my phone any more unless it’s from a number I know.

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Me neither, which is why I missed a call from the pet sitter who was locked out of the house and couldn’t give my pet their meds. And I didn’t check voicemail because I was driving - the car reads out the caller ID over hands free, but not VMs. All was well in the end, but SPAM calls endanger everyone since we may miss calls that are actually important.

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