US prison population up 800% since launch of War on Drugs

You shouldn’t diss fifth graders like that, at least they haven’t heard of the illuminati trilogy yet and are trying to make reality conform to a work of fiction. The fifth graders are just misinformed they aren’t trying to conform their limited understanding to some preconceived narrative.

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How can this conversation be had without at least acknowledging that the so-called War on Drugs is actually a race war?

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Not just drugs, of course.

Also three strikes laws, general felony creep (eg dollar value for felony lagging income +inflation), increased recidivism (reduced rehabilitation, decades of very hard times for the bottom 25%), the use of prisons to replace mental institutions.

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this is the biggest train wreck i’ve ever seen in a bb comments section

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Well of course that’s how it happened. Also, I have a lot of oceanfront property in South Dakota for sale…

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Indeed. I anticipate one of those delete-sweeps by a mod anytime now…

It’s too damned many people no matter how you slice it. It’s an unaffordable rate of incarceration for a nation that can’t afford to fix its roads, educate their kids, or take care of their growing elderly population. It’s well past time that we take a nice, close look at the reasons why incarceration rates are so high, why the bar has been lowered for felony offenses, and who actually benefits from having so many people’s lives destroyed.

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What the hell is going on in here?

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I think it’s Being Hit on the Head lessons in here. The Argument Clinic must be down the hall.

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Was just re-reading The Illuminatus Trilogy last night… This passage just flashed before my eyes:

...On the other hand, they didn't know either about certain legitimate business expenses which he had not cared to claim, including more than $5,000,000 in bribes to various legislators, judges and police officials, in all 50 states in order to maintain the laws which made men's vices so profitable to him, and $50,000 to Knights of Christianity United in Faith as a last-ditch effort to stave off total legalization of pornography and the collapse of that part of his empire.
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America = War on Drugs

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War, huh? Yeah, what is it good for?

I wonder how much of that is also due to the prison industry becoming for-profit? I would bet at least half.

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I hope not. It’s awesome! What did Dostoyevsky say? Hmmm…

“Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms. It’s by talking nonsense that one gets to the truth! I talk nonsense, therefore I’m human.”

Well, except in the translation I read it was “talking rot” instead of “talking nonsense”.


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I hate it when trolls win.

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There isn’t even anything tasty enough to eat in here.