Even more ridiculous is that so many of my fellow countrymen/women think that their extreme version of free speech has given them more “freedom”. In reality you see more hate groups/speech than ever, a completely corrupt, oligarch run political system, and “quality of life” scoring that’s more in line with “developing” nations… There’s also a reason that white Americans are so fanatical about “free speech” too…
I’m pleasantly surprised to see so many comments siding with Paris. I wasn’t expecting it here.
I don’t know why American and English media keeps comparing the American and French ideals for Free Expression.
In America, you can say almost anything you want without consequences. In France, you can say almost anything you want without consequences, as long as it benefits White Catholics.
To equate Charlie Hebdoe as the Fox News of France immediately labels you as someone who just doesn’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe your intentions are good, but try to curb your American/centric ideological fixations. If Angry Pete was serious and even knew what a Charlie Hebdoe was, I would take it as a real insult. But, as Mr. T would say, “I PITY DA FOOL!”
That’s why I specifically mentioned ‘freedom of the press empirically measured’ as an example of us not following through on our ideals. It is one of the areas, among others, where our theoretically excellent standards simply don’t make it into production. Doesn’t make the standards less excellent; but it does make the reality worse, and is a shame generally.
I wondered why they’d apologized. They “report” made up bullshit propaganda every day and never apologize. So I figured something was up and that it was probably something that could potentially cost them money.
Thank fuck you’ve come to police our civility! What did we do without your example? Granted, you’re complaining about what you too engage in, but hey, you’re doing it with an adorable accent! Free pass for you! Everyone else humbles to you!
Paris will sue not to supress free speech, but to make sure Fox news information is debunked as false.
It’s about proving your argument and avoiding libel.
You can’t say false things without being called a liar that’s all.
If Fox news can prove the no-go zones, one way or another, they’ll win…
Otherwise, they’ll have to compensate Paris for having done harm to their reputation through lies.
No Streisand effect either…
I’m worried that in the name of free speech, people stop thinking by themselves.
Or was it a stunt to make sure the article was read ?
Like my daddy always said: The perfect defense against charges of libel and slander is the truth. If Fox is indeed doing journalism, they should go to court and prove their case.
Otherwise, they should dissolve their organization as the propaganda mill that everyone knows it actually is.
But to re-state the obvious, the free speech laws that protect “them” also protect my favorite rabbis.
It might be that people are just siding against FOX News rather than really for Paris.
In a way you can. I catch the NYT, WaPo, Economist, Guardian and many others doing it all the time either through weasel words, hiding editorial voice in reporting or lies of omission.
Xeni is a terrorist sympathizer who has condoned the murder of innocent children.
There, I’ve said it. What will she do now? Sue me? How would that help anything? I’m a source of no legitimate reputation (just like Fox), and the charge is just an incitement (just like Fox).
Wait, should Fox sue me?
How about everyone ignore me and we’re all better off?
That t’wernt Fux, that t’were Niggle Farridge, the leader of the British Tea Party (aka UKIP). He was being interviewed on Fux, he seems to be its current darling. He also said that arranged marriage and FGM was rampant, quoting a documentary broadcast 4 years ago as his source.
You have to remember that this is the leader of a party one of whose members claimed that the spell of inclement weather we had at the start of last year was the fault of homosexuals for wanting to marry. There was a UKIP Weather Twitter account for a while.