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Zero sense of proportion, or of history.
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White culture = never getting over whatever it is that makes some white people think they can get away with this shit.
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Putting this here, because this really seems to be a white culture thing – from the “redemption through work” that underpins white Protestantism, to the focus on the perpetrator and how to redeem them. It’s about more than just one incident or person.
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All this. It’s not about having a “wrong” opinion. If you were to ask many of these people, they would have the “right” one anyway. It’s just that sometimes people do things that hurt other people, or otherwise indicate that they are a threat to others, so they need to be removed from that situation so they can’t be a threat.
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There is also the concept of actions having consequences. IMHO, part of what makes these actions so insidious is that historically there have been no consequences for the white person of any sort. You can see this in the shock expressed when they actually suffer for their sin. Part of my upbringing was that actions always have consequences, for good or ill. Us white folks apparently need to relearn that lesson.
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White Saviour Syndrome + Just Wanting the Cookies = Absolute Inhumanity.
TW Ableism, child abandonment
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For the record, “rehomed” is the actual term used in the adoption industry. It happens a lot more often than people realize. And it’s every bit as inhumane as one would think.
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(Click for the rest, obvs).
We may not be born racist but it doesn’t take long (and given systemic disparities, once can argue that we pretty much are).
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There is nothing that is not perfect about that!
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I’m just a southern white guy, so I’m going to get called this that, eight other things, lectured on privilege, and then when I point out how if the way I were treated were aimed elsewhere it would be exceedingly bigoted, only to have false equivalency shouted at me.
So take this wit ha rather large grain of salt. I live with my family for a variety of reasons including personal disability, familial responsibility, and factors outside of my control. I’m not wealthy, and there is a lot of the world i haven’t experienced in my life. So take another grain of salt on this.
OK? OK.
I think people focus too damned hard on what i call ‘the ladder and ranking of persecution.’ So instead of seeing ‘a guy got his neck stepped on with his final moments on this earth being him crying for his mama begging to be let up.’ It turns into a matter of race. Instead of ‘a person of same skillset is being paid less because gender/country of origin/etc.’ And so on and so on.
I don’t want to dismiss race, gender, etc as irrelevant. These things are entirely relevant, and sadly still need addressing. My problem is people seem to focus too hard on what makes everyone diffrent. how can I, mr white southern guy, comprehend the problems of a transgender lady in the midwest? What right do I have to weigh in on the sad trends of the police as occupation attracting those that wish to impose their will on others by state sanctioned bullying? How dare i because i am not these groups.
It sounds much the same as the screaming from the other end. ‘If it had been a white guy it wouldn’t matter! Why do I have to give up my spot in line! This guy is making a spectacle of himself in public and we have to swallow it while we go about not trying to hurt anyone and get shamed just for being who we are!’
You can, rightly, point out implied power dynamics, assumptions of the state of things based on upbringings, invisible webs of prvivilage, and on and on…
However I don’t like the idea of being reduced to a few checkmarks. I’m disabled. While my vision, sadly, must be taken into account. I do not want the defining characteristic when people deal with me to be ‘Blind Guy.’ I don’t want to reduce someone I am interacting with to ‘Black Guy’ or ‘Gay woman’ or ‘Nonbinary person.’
That sort of ultra reduction and focusing on ‘I am THIS persecuted so I get THIS much say in the conversation while You are WHITE GUY so you get No Say’ is just having us at each-other’s throats.
I am sure people will recognize the name and avatar. Hi. I am not new here. I left because i felt unwelcome. I return hoping this is not a mistake, but am pretty sure it is.
We are more than the checkmarks on a form. I’m just tired of the left and right sounding the same when screaming in my ear how terrible i am, and even if the right is ‘more wrong’ the fact the left is screaming just as shrilly and loudly that I am their personal stan does not make them ‘more right.’
I embrace my heritage of being southern. It has its flaws which must be acknowledged and avoided, but it is one of making do with what you have, smple pleasures, deep frying everything, barbeque, several styles and liniages of music, and I am proud of that. I feel like I shouldn’t have aobut eight quantifiers, astrisks, and other footnotes disavowing slavery and the dixicrat movement followed by the southern stratagy republicans as aweful while saying that.
And i want to share the good of my culture with others so they can take, remix, and make it part of theirs. What is the japanese take on southern fried foods? What about hindi barbeque? What other cultures could benefit from a little redneck engineering and ‘here hold mah beer!’ mentality?
I have had to deal with people shouting at me, in my face and loudly, that white people have no culture. that we only take and take, and give nothing back.
To that I say? You are free to think that. I rather strongly disagree as that is overgeneralizing and outright demonizing an entire group of people on the basis of skin color. that would be like saying england and poland have the same lack of culture, or germany and france are both cultural voids. As well argue sweden and Italy are alike.
Then there’s the more broad’ europeans sneering down at americans’ stereotype.
Plenty of culture going on us white folk have that can be freely repurposed. I welcome it. I am southern and I activly laugh at those horrifyingly racist redneck stereotypes. Maybe i’m too privilaged to be hurt by it, but at worst i take it as ‘guys you need to try HARDER to be offensive. c’mon I know you can do it. Spare no expense on the matter. If your’e aiming to offend me, don’t go half measures.’
Because Good God I haven’t seen Eskimo Girls pictures in awhile so i don’t know if that’s still a thing, but I found the whole thing pretty stupid because it was nakedly stealing… and doing so BADLY.
How interesting that you assume they would benefit and that there’s not a reason those things haven’t been adopted.
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Those are weird items to cite as aspects of “white culture” when they’re just local labels for universally human phenomena. After all, “redneck engineering” isn’t about skin colour but about making do out of economic necessity – Macgyvering and jerry-rigging and up-cycling of junk into useful machines are things you see anywhere in the world where there’s endemic poverty. And the idea that stupid risk-taking is somehow related to skin colour is quickly disproven by anyone who’s gone to college on a diverse campus or travelled to a big city (or, y’know, spent some time in the part of town where non-white people live).
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Yeah. It’s really the assumption that if it comes from white people it must be an improvement to one’s culture and the assumption that people don’t have engineering and creativity skills if they’re not white… just such a classically white thing to assume.
Also, we’ve spent centuries exporting and forcing our ideas onto other people. They aren’t unaware of them. If they don’t adopt them, maybe those ideas aren’t as inherently superior as some of us would like to believe.
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