Why is it harder to maintain weight level now than in the 80s?

Do you know who’s really the worst? Gen10 - children born in 2010 and later. They are all so useless and stupid. God, I know one who can’t even tie their own shoes. How is she gonna get a job?

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All her fault-- she must have done a bad job of choosing the right parents.

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Well, as long as she can mow the lawn and do some light tax work I’d be happy.

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This was…oh, geez, back in the late 1950s/early 1960s? And she never said ANYTHING to her sister-in-law, okay? Did I even say that? No, I did not. Also, if you really read my post, you would see that I mentioned that that particular cousin grew up to be not obese; maybe somewhat overweight, but not obese.

If you’re going to bring up points in a post, please read the whole post first. Thank you.

And wrists and calves.

I just have to be amused. We have yet another nutrition thread where no one read the article and instead of saying, “Hmm, science says something new and interesting here,” everyone’s all, “This science contradicts my pet theory on nutrition, I am sure the science was poorly done,” or “This science confirms my pet theory, I’m going to extrapolate that the cause is [insert pet theory here] even though the science says absolutely nothing about that.”

If this were, say, global warming, or vaccinations, we’d be all up in arms about how you can’t ignore the science.

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Yeah, that kind of projection is ridiculous. If your 3 year old weighs 120lbs, sure, it might be time to have a talk… But fat babies are stinkin’ adorable. They end up losing it all once they start crawling/walking any way.

Yeah, I had to point out 2 or 3 times that no, this is nothing to do with eating more and exercising less - that’s the whole point of the article (and mentioned in the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of the OP).

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Except that this science is a lot harder to do because it not only involves human behavior, it also relies on human recollection and volunteered data. The data that underpin vaccinations and climate change are far and above more measurable than the self-reported habits of humans at different cultural eras. The fact that caloric intake and activity levels are “controlled for” via large-scale survey is tough. I mean, if people were being sent pre-made meals, and were instructed to eat nothing but those meals, and compliance could be verified, this would be more bulletproof, but there is never enough funding in research of this nature to avoid doing science like this that isn’t half social science, which, as a sociology major myself, is…hard to draw conclusions from.

There could be cultural differences affecting the way that people from the two eras report exercise and caloric intake, as well as shifts in the sneaky nature of food labeling, packaging and production that could deceive today’s humans moreso than in the 80s. The subtle extra physical activities sprinkled throughout the day seems like a valid hypothesis (and actually one that the researchers probably wouldn’t rule out) as these would be difficult for the participants to take into account.

Starting out a comment with “obviously this is 'cuz of…” is without a doubt annoying arm-chairing and foolishly dismissive, but I don’t think the comparison with climate change or vaccinations is exactly fair.

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I can’t take this. Your story of someone being disgusted by a fat baby triggered strong emotions in me. It made me think of fat shaming, and how disturbing it is that people would project that onto small children. It reminded me of how studies have shown that while baby boys are often allowed to eat on demand, baby girls have their food restricted by mothers who have internalized fat shaming.

There is no reason to think that if I responded to part of a post that I didn’t read the rest. Look at this:

Did I even say she did?

No, what I did was said that your mom did something wrong. I did that knowing that it’s not nice to say bad things about other people’s mothers. I can take some backlash. It wasn’t somehow procedurally unfair of me to read your comment and have that response. I didn’t do commenting on the internet wrong. I was a jerk because I felt at the time that it was worth being a jerk to complain about fat shaming babies.

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Oh, absolutely. It is very hard to deal with all the variables in nutrition. Nevertheless, we should at least entertain the idea that they did the study correctly, that they analyzed the data properly, and that this might be a valid study AND we don’t know exactly why this is happening BUT instead of rushing to conclusions about gut bacteria, plastic containers, and gluten we could, I don’t know, be scientific about it and see what the facts point to.

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And this study is not comparing overseas eating habits to Americans’. Which you can see if you go and read the article, itself.

So, how many people are missing that part of my own argument?

Apparently, at least one. : )

Yeah, but we’ve got meth, now.

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So your argument as to why we’re fatter now than we were in the 80’s, is because they eat less food and exercise more than we do overseas?

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