doctorow at July 19th, 2013 15:58 — #1
borisbartlog at July 19th, 2013 16:07 — #2
One law for the lion & ox is oppression.
stephen_schenck at July 19th, 2013 16:07 — #3
When did hacking get neutered?
sqlrob at July 19th, 2013 16:14 — #4
"- Only hack things you own"
Agreed. My hardware, my rules.
"- Do not hack anything you rely on"
solely on is better phrasing. If you can get a dupe, go for it.
"- Respect the rights of others"
"- Know and respect the law"
Know yes, respect? Respect the law that prosecuted Schwartz? Or the one that makes hacking my own hardware (jailbreaking) illegal? I don't think so.
zikzak at July 19th, 2013 17:48 — #5
ROFL. I would be offended at these rules, if I wasn't confident they would be gleefully disregarded and/or broken by any young hacker worth his/her salt.
Maybe that's the real purpose this code serves: to weed out those with insufficiently strong spirits.
"Do you let old people set the rules about things they don't understand? Do you accept the arbitrary authority of the legal system and corporate property rights? Great! You're a perfect fit for our inane non-profit which tries to promote technical creativity in the youth while counteracting the nasty anti-establishment sentiment that tends to accompany it.
The rest of you kids: you'll get no help from the adults. Go raise hell, lord knows we need it."
richard_kirk at July 19th, 2013 17:48 — #6
You can probably not word a code of conduct without someone finding an exception based on your exact wording, rather than what you meant. Those were good words. If you read them and go ahead anyhow, then at least you mean it and you deerve the consequences.
Here is a quote form Aldous Huxley. You may already know it, but I met for the first time a few days ago...
"It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem all one's life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than "Try to be a little kinder."
ohbejoyful at July 19th, 2013 18:35 — #7
If it's a dupe then it's not something you rely on.
Respect =/= follow.
suedegambit at July 20th, 2013 19:44 — #8
I applaud their goals, but better writing would make clearer statements and leave less room for interpretation.
The Huxley quote is nice, but it deals with sentiment rather than fundamentals. They do relate, but you have to compare like with like.
suedegambit at July 20th, 2013 19:45 — #9
It didn't. It just has an acceptable face now.
doctorow at July 24th, 2013 15:58 — #10
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