Follow-up question - who is Iggy Azalea?
Katy Perry, I think.
She wishes⌠maybe? I donât know. I hate to say this, but all these pop stars sort of run together in my head now a days. I could tell the difference between Debbie Gibson and Tiffany (not that I really liked them much), but when I hear songs by Katy Perry, Arianna Grande, Lady Gaga, or whoever else, if I canât see the singer, I really canât tell the difference⌠I do think Iggy Azalea sees herself as a rapper, influenced by Dirty South hip-hop, but the one or two songs i heard on SNL seemed pretty boring to meâŚ
Am I just old? I canât tell anymore, so everyone just get off my lawn, just to be sure.
Edited to add: in regards to the issue at hand, I think she has said and done some questionable things, and at least dabbles in cultural appropriation in regards to hip-hop⌠But that doesnât mean the person threatening to release the tape of her isnât a sexist asshole. Edited again to add link:
As if Anonymous was a thing? Hereâs food for thought: if somebody threatens to release your sex tape⌠itâs pretty much already released.
Theyâll say they wonât release it, but then they will, to a limited number of âart-houseâ theaters.
This is probably just another false-flag PR attempt by Sony.
thereâs no easy way to tell who is âlegit Anonymousâ
Itâs exceptionally easy to tell who is legit Anonymous. If they call themselves Anonymous, then they are legit.
basically, sheâs Nicki Minaj for music listeners who donât like black people or talent.
Culturally tone deaf Aussie bogan -vs- misogynistic arsehole wing of Anon. No winners here, move along.
... threatened with the release of a sex tape by Anonymous
The âby Anonymousâ is a bit ambiguous. Is it the ârelease by Anonymous of a sex tape showing Iggy Azaleaâ or âthreatening Iggy Azalea with a sex tape showing Anonymous?â With most of the members of Anonymous the latter would be less desirable.
correct on all counts
no, she sucks.
IMO, the issue is not so much that she appropriates culture, itâs that hip hop culture has been fully assimilated into the larger culture. sheâs just a product of her time. the issue for me is, how responsible was I for that transition? which is fucked up. itâs not my fault I thought breakinâ and Run DMC was awesome in the 4th grade and I never stopped even when all the other white kids did. but on some level, my presence made it OK for wack white people to decide they could do it too. Or maybe thatâs self-aggrandizing? analyzing it will drive you mad, but I at least felt a responsibility to understand that how I repped had certain repercussions that didnât apply to, say, DMX. I guess anything I did was eclipsed by Em, anyhowâŚ
So, I havenât read any links, but if IAâs ânasty remarksâ to a POC were racially motivated, then sheâs wrong for that. OTOH, if she just has beef with a POC and theyâre just dissing each other, then it doesnât matter. But the tape itself is irrelevant. What a third party does w/r/t their interpretation of whatâs happening is out of IAs hands.
I am Anonymous, and so is my wife.
I thought it was like âcoolâ, so if they call themselves anonymous, then they arenât. This âanonymousâ is so confusing; posers or not, I bet weâll never know who any of them are.
Or, another way to think about this question - whatâs the difference between Iggy Azalea, Vanilla Ice, and Enimen? Is there a difference between Bonnie Raitt, Eric Clapton, or Elvis Prestley, for that matter? How do we separate how the industry has exploited black culture from real honest respect for black culture? Would we place so much importance on country blues in our modern music, if it hadnât been for white menâs embrace of those sorts of records (when, as Elijah Wald has shown, the city blues, dominated by women, were what African Americans were overwhelmingly in the 20s - there is a reason why Robert Johnson was so obscure to begin with).
Oh, and can we just blame it all on Rick Rubin, cause Iâm no fan of his, honestly. Heâs always come off as a tool.
I still think it would matter, because itâs still a white woman using racially tinged language, so Iâd say itâs problematic, even if such dissing is an integral part of hip-hop culture⌠If sheâs so down with black culture, she should be sensitive to her place within it as a white woman.
and donât call me big-nose
itâs a hard question. eric clapton is much more accessible to most people i know than leadbelly or even muddy waters. and years ago at a call center i was at it was socially acceptable to play outloud in the office eminem but still not NWA.
i just have this gut feeling it comes down to the historical power structure in first world nations, and the people that are part of those structures wanting to hear something that is familiar-yet-edgey. and while i donât have a huge problem with appropriationâwe artists stand on the shoulders of giantsâif it we were a bit honest in acknowledging credit i think some of these issues would go away.
Wait, Iâm confused. Is the statement that Iggy Azalea isnât black (obvious) and has no talent (also obvious), or an implication in some way that sheâs a talentless white version of Nicki Minaj (which would imply that Ms. Minaj has talent [which I am yet to be witness to])?
Iggy: âWhat? Release a sex tape and make everyone start talking about me even more? Oh no, Brâer Bear! Not the briar patch! Anything but the briar patch!â
Yeah, Nicki Minaj does have SOME talent.
You may not like her style but you have to admit she at the very least clears the low bar of 'better at rapping than Iggy Azalea".
