doctorow — 2014-05-14T12:00:18-04:00 — #1
jim_kirk — 2014-05-14T12:19:57-04:00 — #2
Heck, I'd be happy with 1/10 that amount.
brainspore — 2014-05-14T12:25:49-04:00 — #3
Joke's on him, they're paying the settlement in the form of $200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pennies.
jorpho — 2014-05-14T12:37:18-04:00 — #4
Would we be better off if we stopped widely reporting the delusional rants of crazy people with limited authority?
jandrese — 2014-05-14T12:38:52-04:00 — #5
That's only 250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 metric tons of pennies. That's less than the mass of the Sun. He should ask for more. I'm sure that airport bakery has it in their tip jar.
jim_kirk — 2014-05-14T12:50:41-04:00 — #6
Hmm, how big a settlement would it take for it to just collapse into a black hole?
drew_millecchia — 2014-05-14T13:00:11-04:00 — #7
The article actually makes that association. It would take 31 piles that reach to Saturn.
drew_millecchia — 2014-05-14T13:05:00-04:00 — #8
What's really the point of 'largest damages'? If its just going to be dismissed as frivolous and there really isn't any consequence to the person filing, why doesn't someone here just file one for a $Googleplex and be done with it?
It's like kids arguing about how much better they are: I'm an infinity times better than you - no, I'm an infinity infinity times better than you...
nell_anvoid — 2014-05-14T13:25:38-04:00 — #9
Must have been one hell of a bad muffin.
lemoutan — 2014-05-14T13:38:55-04:00 — #10
Good gracious, that's more than the CEO of Goldman-Sachs earns in a month.
udqbpn — 2014-05-14T14:38:46-04:00 — #11
Just thought I'd clarify, the "pennies to Saturn" thing was referring to someone else who was "only" asking for quadrillions of dollars. We're talking about 10^21 times more pennies, which by my calculations, and assuming the previous Saturn figure is correct, would make a cylinder of pennies from earth to Saturn that's twice the Earth-Sun distance in diameter. We're... we're talking a lot of pennies.
jandrese — 2014-05-14T15:12:09-04:00 — #12
Stacked one on top of another, the pennies would make a stack 310,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 km tall. That's 3.1E32 km. For reference, the distance from Earth to the Andromeda Galaxy is about 2.3E19 km. Assuming the bottom of the stack was at a fixed place on Earth and you could avoid having the pennies slip on one another somehow (IE the stack was the most rigid rod ever made), the tip of the rod would be experiencing the most severe relativistic time dilation since the Big Bang.
Light emitted from the front porchlight of the US Mint at the time it forged the first penny would only be 0.00000000000000068% up the stack today. In fact the stack would reach further than it is possible to see in the universe. If it existed back when the Big Bang happened, light from the end of the stack would not have had time to reach our planet yet.
jackbird — 2014-05-14T15:25:06-04:00 — #13
I prefer Lowering The Bar's nomenclature of "two octillion gigadollars."
davide405 — 2014-05-14T15:41:53-04:00 — #14
I'm guessing that a "$Googleplex" might be: All of the money that Google will earn. Ever. And I would surely accept an out of court settlement for that amount.
A $Googolplex would be a lot more money, however, and if it were on the table, I would be tempted to insist on the matter going to a jury.
laurasbadideas — 2014-05-14T17:05:59-04:00 — #15
No, that's a terrible idea. It adds additional complexity to the case -- if the judge orders Au Bon Pain to pay "two octillion gigadollars", do they owe $2 octillion 10^9 or $2 octillion 2^30?
othermichael — 2014-05-14T17:09:45-04:00 — #16
They'd just leave Fox News for other networks.
Some infinities have greater mightiness than others.
danegeld — 2014-05-14T18:54:11-04:00 — #17
The Schwarzchild radius RS for a black hole of mass M is RS = 2GM/c2
G = 6.67×10-11 m3 kg-2 s-1
c = 3×108 m s-1
and M is the mass of the material inside the sphere just before the black hole forms.
Assuming the payment is in pennies, the US penny has mpenny = 2.5 grams and Vpenny = 360 mm3. The density of the US penny is then ρpenny = 7600 kg/m3. (There's a geometric factor we should include here due to the space packing)
The mass of the pile of pennies needed to form a black hole is:
and the radius of the black hole made of pennies is then:
RS = 8 G π RS3 ρpenny / 3c2
RS = √( 3c2 / 8 G π ρpenny ) = 2.7×108 km
This black-hole forming sphere of pennies has a volume of:
Vblack hole = 4πRS3/3 = 8.25×1025 km3
Ncoins = Vblack hole / Vpenny = 2.29×1041 pennies, to a value of:
$black hole = 2.29×1039 dollars
$black hole = 2,290,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 $
A physical limit on the quantity of money that needs to be considered in litigation
ldobe — 2014-05-14T20:41:44-04:00 — #18
Phew, what a relief. We're safe by a couple of orders of magnitude from collapsing into a black hole. Instead, we'll probably just end up as a neutron star.
anansi133 — 2014-05-15T00:06:24-04:00 — #19
Oh, man! I wanted to quip that somebody's been taking math lessons from Dr Evil. But you guys went way beyond that!
David405: Originally, Gogle and Gogleplex were large numbers invented by Carl Sagan. A certain web company added a zero and changed the meaning considerably.
davide405 — 2014-05-15T01:26:02-04:00 — #20
Googol <-- note: ends with an "ol"
Google <-- note: ends with an "le"
"Gogle" and "Gogleplex" are just misspellings themselves.
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