xeni at February 10th, 2014 19:17 — #1
retchdog at February 10th, 2014 19:36 — #2
i was just discussing with a friend a few days ago about how the doge meme basically forces one to write a very short précis about an arbitrary topic, as opposed to lolcats which are themselves the object of the joke, or at most function as a metaphorical symbol.
i guess you can think of doge either as a sort of haiku, or a degenerate cinquain. my suspicion is that the popularity comes from being a hack which allows anal-retentive amateur grammarians to sidestep their ridiculous inner censor for a few seconds and just communicate their feelings and surface-level impressions. that's why it's a faux-pas, as mentioned in the article, to use nearly-correct grammar in a doge; it infringes on the purpose.
ldobe at February 10th, 2014 20:45 — #3
many insight. such thought. much retchdoge. wow.
crenquis at February 10th, 2014 20:45 — #4
"Such Weather" (from the comments section of TFA) is my new go to site for current conditions:
donald_petersen at February 10th, 2014 21:09 — #5
I'm waitin' for this one to be over. Surprise me, Internet, and make it survive the summer.
It could happen.
fake_tudza at February 10th, 2014 21:18 — #6
pineapplecharm at February 10th, 2014 21:52 — #7
"Many noun"?? Did you even read the article, Xeni?!
vonbobo at February 10th, 2014 23:15 — #8
Doge? I still haven't seen gangnum style yet.
william_holz at February 11th, 2014 00:20 — #9
Many noun isn't an option?
From the article . .
Many Robe, Very Guitar, Many Noun. I'm not seeing the issue.
Also, might've been a nicer way to say that. Just sayin'
socialmaladroit at February 11th, 2014 00:53 — #10
retchdog at February 11th, 2014 01:10 — #11
jeremy_ at February 11th, 2014 01:10 — #12
Doge always makes me think of this:
ldobe at February 11th, 2014 01:26 — #13
Also obligatory Simpsons quote:
Cletus: "Oh, sorry about my faux pas, that jug was fo' pa."
sol at February 11th, 2014 01:30 — #14
One example are the words much and many. Both of them basically mean “a lot,” but much goes with amorphous masses and many goes with individual countable items. So if you say “much wine was consumed,” you’re talking about a large sea of wine, but if you say “many wines were consumed,” you’re talking about many individual wine-items, in this case probably types of wine like Pinot Grigio or Merlot. But some combinations are better than others: “many wine” or “much wines” is definitely not in the canon of Standard English, but sounds excellent in doge speak.
An example that proves my point conveniently popped up on my Facebook while I was writing this, showing someone actually correcting someone else’s use of doge modifiers to be more ungrammatical.
Friend #1 (posting link): Doge is a rescue dog. Much respect. So noble. Wow.
Friend #2 (commenting): Your dogeing is too coherent. “Much noble, so respect.”
So it would be "much noun", because nouns are countable items. "Many noun" is still ungrammatical, and pretty much still acceptable, as the plural/singular doesn't match up, but not precisely correct.
timquinn at February 11th, 2014 01:33 — #15
I can haz more original meme?
solstone at February 11th, 2014 01:43 — #16
william_holz at February 11th, 2014 02:02 — #17
I believe that thinking this hard in order to criticize the usage of term in a goofy meme completely defeats the point of goofy memes.
gilbertwham at February 11th, 2014 05:16 — #19
Surely that's what they're for?
chgoliz at February 11th, 2014 10:05 — #20
Am I the only person to enjoy the Shakespearean doge-speak in the article? It's poetry....there's a real shape to it, and it echoes the original in a way that deepens the effect rather than cheapens it. For me, at least.
wysinwyg at February 11th, 2014 11:42 — #21
The point is to subvert conventions such as:
'many' refers to countable items
As a result, "much noun" would be fine. "many noun" is ungrammatical and probably wouldn't be criticized as "too coherent" but there doesn't seem to be any rule in doge to prevent "much noun" which I think is actually funnier because it's even less coherent than "many noun".
The number of people jumping in to correct usage of a dialect that was purposefully constructed to subvert grammatical rules for the sake of lulz is itself pretty lulzy.
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