#1 By: Mark Frauenfelder, September 5th, 2013 17:34
#2 By: David Forbes, September 5th, 2013 17:49
Having just spent a week at Burning Man, I can assure you that it makes perfect sense.
#3 By: newliminted, September 5th, 2013 17:52
What do you mean you can't figure it out? 'There is no hope'. -- that's the message.
#4 By: capnmarrrrk, September 5th, 2013 18:22
I totally hear his voice when I read these words. Remember Crumb didn't subscribe to the Hippy belief system. Of course he's going to bring the hammer down.
#5 By: solstone, September 5th, 2013 18:37
Reminds me of several similar diagrams and illustrations from The Book of the Subgenius. Which totally makes sense since Crumb is a member and early promoter of that slack-tacular organization...
#6 By: Thecorrectline, September 5th, 2013 18:53
Is that a hand coming out of his butt in the "sex" circle? @,@
#7 By: Bryan Otte, September 5th, 2013 19:13
I like it, I wouldn't point chaos directly to death though.
#8 By: pjcamp, September 5th, 2013 21:17
If yer hand is under yer own butt, yer not doing the sex right.
#9 By: Boundegar, September 5th, 2013 21:37
It makes perfect sense when you realize he left out the essential connection between the Feeling/Thought nexus and the Outer Limits. Just sketch that in, you'll see.
#10 By: Miramon, September 5th, 2013 21:59
Man, I love this diagram. I kind of want to hear George Carlin narrating in voice over explaining the various elements, though.
#11 By: Halloween Jack, September 6th, 2013 08:37
source? (Lots of cartoonists have been and/or are SubGenii, but I've never even heard a rumor of Crumb actively participating.)
#12 By: solstone, September 6th, 2013 12:13
Here's a quote from Ivan Stang taken from this thread:
"... R. Crumb and Frank Zappa have both plugged the Church
often, though they didn't spend the $. (Crumb sent some GREAT clip art
though, good enough to be worth the $20 (1983 prices)."
He also gets a mention (and his picture) on the Wikipedia entry for the Church of the Subgenius:
Notable associates of the Church include Mark Mothersbaugh, Mojo Nixon, Paul Mavrides, Paul Reubens, members of Negativland, and R. Crumb. Crumb, a cartoonist, provided early publicity for the church by reprinting Sub Genius Pamphlet #1 in his comics anthology Weirdo. References to the Church are present in several works of art, including the Internet-based collaborative fiction Ong's Hat, the comic book The Middleman, the band Sublime's album 40oz. to Freedom, and the television program Pee-wee's Playhouse.
#13 By: Halloween Jack, September 6th, 2013 16:30
Huh. I wonder which issue of Weirdo.
#14 By: LateBloomer, September 6th, 2013 18:12
I think the subtext of the diagram gives it some sense
The purpose of this diagram is not to be mean, not to be a bring-down. We’re not trying to make sensitive little girls depressed. The purpose of this diagram is to convince you earnestly and in all sincerity that there is NO HOPE so that you will be transformed by the cold hard truth. Once you accept the reality of NO HOPE you can begin to approach your life in a new way. Now you can take your head out of the clouds, quit looking to some illusion of a perfect future and start living in the present. Knowing that there is in fact, NO HOPE, and feeling this great realization with your whole being will slam you back to the real world like you’ve never been before. Come on! You can handle it!
#15 By: Mark Frauenfelder, September 10th, 2013 17:34
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