Accused of sexually assaulting a child, Kevin Spacey would like you to know he's gay

I guess it wasn’t clear. Grandpa blamed his creepiness on the alcohol, which sounds very lame when said to an 18 year old with better self control. I didn’t believe nor trusted him and avoided him like the plague.

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I was just going to ask “what did Tom Hanks ever do to you?” but you’ve already provided the answer.

I get being put off by someone who acts like a goody-two-shoes all the time, but in light of how many hollywood types are turning out to be festering piles of shit in disguise, I’ll take his Pollyanna act over them, any day.

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I followed you on what you posted :slight_smile: figured alcohol was a factor. Blaming alcohol is a lazy piss poor non-excuse. It’s like saying one was mind controlled by that evil devil juice.

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and that is what you, and not the victim, are calling it.

sexual assault != attempted rape

taking no for an answer IS a distinction WITH A DIFFERENCE

Way to use the victim for your own agenda here Kath. Way to go.

Try listening. There is nuance here, and I’m not excusing Spacey. I am definitely asking you to not add to the accusations and then not react to what you’ve added. Ok?

May I suggest then that you do more listening and asking in such threads? You’ve done a lot of declaring, and it’s not your area of expertise, right?

I have been victimized. Several of us have. Listen. Shhh, just for a few, please.

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Maybe you could try reading the definition of statutory rape?

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That was the worst Dos Equis commercial script I have seen.

I wish I could forget! So many nights obsessing about what the hell was that.

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As far as the gossip goes, Tom Hanks is goody two shoes in real life and the only thing someone ever accused him of being is boringly normal.

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If that’s true, and he turns out not to have been some kind of monstrous fuckwad underneath a really good facade, I’ll take it, like I said.

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I do listen, and engage in conversation. I don’t think i have to be an expert to be able to be engaged, there are many topics where i am not an expert but can contribute in some way. So shh, don’t be rude.

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This post dredges up a lot of baggage for me. I keep mulling the many details of my experience. A comment post is not really the right format to detail what happened, all my feelings, nor total perspective, but the short of it is: I was chicken-hawked by men a couple of times as an older teen. I am extremely lucky that I was not as young as Rapp when they happened, and that I was not what I would consider “assaulted” in either case, but one was borderline enough to be creepy. If either I had been younger or the pass had been more physical, I’m certain it would have been more traumatizing. That both happened to Mr. Rapp is beyond bad judgement or a drunken mistake.

In both cases I was in my late teens, but I looked really young; I was a late-bloomer and still very naive. In one case, it was a late-twenties-aged guy from my rock scene who I met at a show. He wasn’t out per se, but if I had had any gaydar (I didn’t, at the time) it would’ve gone off. I found out later that it was an “open secret” in the scene that he liked teen guys. We had been drinking in a group setting, then he got me alone but realized that I was not into him and he let it drop. The other guy was a closeted middle-aged man that had been building trust with me since I met him as a twelve-year-old. As I got older and curious about drugs, he set it up so I could trip at his house; when I was coming down he confessed his infatuation with me and unsuccessfully tried to feel me up. He accepted my refusal but obviously I never spoke to him again.

With the first guy, though, he explained a bit later that he was trying to pick me up that night and he felt he should come clean because he could tell that I didn’t understand. I felt he handled it respectfully and we remained on good terms, actually.

So, with both a negative and a neutral, “I’m okay” experience, I feel like I have some perspective, which is to say that being closeted gay and into young guys has nothing to do with sexual assault. The sexual orientation of either party doesn’t matter, the assault does. Being part of the same social or professional scene and in party situations together does not matter. I was that kid, the man in my scenario still treated me like a human being. Even if Spacey’s telling the truth that he “doesn’t remember” the attack due to drunkenness, this was not some random kid at a club that you could plausible-denial your way out of the age thing. Drunk as he may have been, Spacey had prior knowledge at the time of the assault how old the kid was, not to mention presumably built up trust over the course of working together. Forgetting the assault the next day doesn’t mean he didn’t know at the time–he did.

Again, fourteen is far younger than I was, and I feel like I was just old enough to deal with what had happened with the second guy; I felt betrayed and creeped-out but not permanently scarred or anything like that. I hope Mr. Rapp and all others forced into this type of fucked-up scenario, regardless of gender or orientation, can become OK. It wasn’t your fault.

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The dude just wrote a book of short stories about typewriters, because he’s obsessed with collecting typewriters. I’m pretty sure he’s as nice as he seems!

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I’d sure like to believe so; heaven knows, I’m getting sick of finding out that people are actually horrible individuals once you scratch the surface.

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Tom Hanks has always struck me as a pretty well adjusted person, so i hope he truly is. Seems like a lot of the actors i like a lot tend to be pretty unstable or deeply unhappy, and those are the good ones.

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https://twitter.com/mellowdrone__/status/924934647380938752

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Exactly; it’s a fucking shame we’ve come to this point.

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Someone should start a firm for providing ‘non sexual predator’ certification. Surely there’s a market for that now.

“While this movie didn’t earn the free software badge, its creators are certified non sexual predators.”

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We will likely know before too long if that is true.

Agreed. Not that once isn’t too much, but I think more stories will appear if this is a 30 year episodic horror story.