All your booze comes from a handful of titanic global corporations

yay i learned something today.
the distiller i visited did distill off what methanol he could first and toss it. it didn’t amount to much compared to the rest of the liquid but probably better safe than sorry.

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yeah, ya do throw it out (or use it as window cleaner). cause it tastes like ass.

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donkey salami <3

tasty and healthy

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Besides consolidation of production, in the U.S. even fiercely indie distillers are subject to regional distribution cartels. If you want to sell BoingBoing Bourbon you have to go through one of a small number of distributors, who all have smoky backroom handshake agreements with each other regarding who gets the rights to what liquor in which region. In some states you can sell directly online, or to your distillery gift shop visitors, but even for the most outré and obscure tipple those numbers are a rounding error compared to bar and retail sales.

In the UK there’s still plenty of ‘big’ brewers who aren’t part of some global conglomerate. I tend to drink a lot of Bath Ales for one (partly because they own several of the pubs near my house).

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It’s still there? DRINK IT MAN BEFORE THE ANGELS GET IT

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Here you go

(thanks to @jerwin)

Yes, I know what you really mean. Whatever is cheap, tastes good and doesn’t make you blind. I can agree with that.

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That is probably an even better philosophy.

I don’t know what that is - but for some reason I want to try it. Is is a Canadian thing? For some reason it looks Canadian.

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Nope, not ours, British. All the cider drinkers I’ve met here tend to be snobbish about it - Calvados or stay home.

Used to be (and maybe still is) that our ridiculously cheap tipples of choice were wines: Cold Duck, Baby Duck, Mateus, Muscatel… The classic in my home province was Québerac, but the SAQ no longer has it made.

(That jug, by the way, holds pretty much a full gallon.)

Mind you, at the top of Google’s search results for Frosty Jack’s is this (click bait-ish) article. You Have Been Warned (not so much about the article - it’s moderately droll; about Frosty Jack’s). :wink:

Cold duck…

Cold duck

That’s a mean wine.

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You’re being entirely too kind to it. My own description starts with “cruel” and “murderous”, then rapidly goes downhill from there.

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As long as there’s still healthy competition in the marketplace then I don’t see what the problem here is, and the booze marketplace is in far healthier shape than it’s ever been. Craft beer has really taken off in a big way in Ireland and the UK in the last decade, and has been going strong in the US for a long time now. In Ireland all the distilleries used to be owned by the same company (Irish Distilleries, part owned by Pernod/Ricard), but there are now around 5-6 different distilleries in the country (Dingle Gin is very nice for example).

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One of the issues here in the USA is that InBev controls distribution to the point that smaller brands can’t get on the shelves or they mishandle the product to cause it to spoil.

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Is that a big deal? Craft breweries don’t produce the volume to worry about that kind of thing surely? There’s more than enough bars and speciality off licences focusing on craft beers I’d have thought. It seems like an industry that’s shown steady growth over the past number of decades, so if distribution is an issue it must be a relatively minor one. Of course larger companies will always try and abuse their market position if they can get away with it, but I haven’t seen much evidence that this is going on to any serious degree at the moment, am I wrong?

Ahhh, high school. The time before hangovers.

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Yum! Didn’t know that they had succumbed to InBev, too.

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