America is starting to realize that "liberal/conservative" labels exclude the left

“America is starting to realize that “liberal/conservative” labels exclude the left”

Since most of the left faithfully get in line to vote for whomever the Democrats nominate, it’s not as if this makes much difference.

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But what if they didn’t?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Accelerationism

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Apologies for the late reply, I’ve been in a magical place where phones and internet don’t exist…

I have studied econ, for years on my own and in college. Not torturing myself with the mathematical apparatus of modern capitalist thought is the primary reason why I’m not pursuing an econ degree.

Not to necessarily accuse you of this, but one of my biggest issues when talking politics/econ with liberals is the assumption that I, as an anarcho/libsoc, am anti-capitalist because I don’t understand economics. When a conversation turns in this direction, I am left with the feeling that the liberal thinks they are the only serious person in the room, and that anyone else must’ve arrived at their POV through ignorance or naivety. (Of course, not all liberals behave this way, and I’m exclusively speaking of my own experience. My mother even acts like this from time to time, and she’s well aware that I have a far deeper knowledge of econ than her…)

Generally the only thing that comes out of these moments is me tuning the other out. I have no interest in debating anything with someone who’s incapable of hearing my arguments on their merit. What good does this do for anyone?

A: None.

And turnabout is fair play, certainly anti-capitalist/leftists behave similarly, with equally unproductive results. That said, and again this is based on my own experience- the teeter-totter is tipped in one direction.

The best capitalist models generally sit at a 90% confidence interval, which would not be acceptable in the natural sciences. There is a reason why most economists don’t feel comfortable making long-term macro projections.

I didn’t intend to imply that! All I meant is that some of my computational science professors were either partially funded by, or collaborated closely with the “law and economics” institute on campus. You could say that I was “primed.” (My coursework didn’t end up involving computational finance, though.)

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I know! From what I’ve read by you, you’re a good- faith debater (and generally I think you make strong arguments :grin:). Just using the scaffolding of your comment to make a larger point in respect to the topic.

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I’m not involved in post doctoral research in economics so I’ll withhold judgment from serious academics, but when someone is smugly suggesting that you don’t understand economics, they probably have views of economics that could safely be called “stupid”…

I swear to god, the discipline is mostly based on taking the words of an 18th century philosopher as gospel and running with them.

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