An attempt to chart media brands on the fake-real spectrum

It’s also out of date. Breitbart should be down at the bottom with all the state news sources now.

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I’ve heard people say this before (most notably beeb journalists defending the beeb) but I think it’s a long way off the mark. BBC News is conservative with both a big and small “c”, in that it’s scared of putting across any sort of radical viewpoint or upsetting the status quo.

The reason both sides accuse it of bias is that people on the left see that it is slightly right of centre in active editorial policy and very right of centre in what it chooses not to report, while those on the right look at it and say “what do you mean, you’re not actively advocating feeding poor people to my groundskeeper’s hounds?? Leftist swine!”

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I prefer my news media to be biased towards objectivity.
Journalists should ferret out a full picture of the Truth-- not as how they would like it to be, but how it actually is. This, is, of course, impossible.

But I’ll settle for enough background information to ascertain that when he said and she said, which person is lying this time around.

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The chart has MSNBC partially in “Questionable Journalistic Value,” which isn’t true. The only people who question MSNBC’s journalistic value are FoxNews and InfoWars viewers who’ve never watched Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell, or Chris Hayes, who are definitely pro-Dem and biased toward Hillary, but being pro-Dem and biased toward Hillary is a good thing…if you think climate change is real, or if you think a woman should be able to choose what to do with her own body, or if you don’t want Bible-believers on the Supreme Court, or if you’re not a xenophobic racist, or if you think there are too many guns out there, or if you value science and education. It’s not bias to point out that the Earth orbits the Sun, even though a lot of people say it doesn’t.

Why not question everybody’s journalistic value, instead of taking it for granted?

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This is trying to treat something subjective as something objective.

I do question it. It’s hard for me to take the mainstream media as the hallowed paragon of objectivity and journalistic ethics that they make themselves out to be, especially since they’ve shown time and time again that that is not the case. I used to like Vox and Slate, but Slate has been sliding downhill and Vox just shit the bed. There’s still hope for them, but not in their present state. Independent media has never steered me wrong on anything major.

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Aside from Al Jazeera, way outside the margins of the graph.

You can maintain the strictest standards of objectivity, yet still demonstrate bias by what you cover, and what you do not. For example, Hilary’s emails versus Trump’s everything.

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I think for both the bottom right and bottom left quadrants, they location on the vertical axis is WAAAAAY more relevant than their location on the horizontal axis “Don’t read this” and “Just no” pretty much cover it, regardless of whether they fell over to the left or the right.

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