Given a choice at any moment over the past 80 years, most Americans would gladly choose being referred to as “these people” vs. as a “Nazi.” But now, when we’re talking about “these people” we are literally talking about klan members, racists, anti-semites and neo nazis. “Nazi” is more likely to land true than what I’ve seen reporters for American conservative news-ish outlets call them for the past three days: “Anarchists.” That is decidedly not how any of them identify.
Maybe that’s because it’s projection. Nazis describe various races as an infestation to make it seem like they have a corrosive effect on society, that people aren’t safe with them around, and so on, when that’s actually true of Nazism. Just a thought.
As I pointed out in another thread, the British antifascists hand over to new organisers every 15-20 years. There are always people willing to take over. There’s no reason why that can’t happen in the US
I sympathize with your complaint about “starting” the thread. Same thing has happened to me. I understand the potential need to split topics off, but just because a person inadvertently triggers a major digression doesn’t (necessarily) mean they should be considered the major instigator of this new, possibly controversial, discussion.
Sorry about that. I didn’t realize that would happen. I’ll see if I can correct it by creating a new thread first and moving the posts to it; and will remember to do that in the future as well. Then it should notify me instead of you.
ETA: Okay, done. Hopefully that fixed the problem.
All these questions about “where do you draw the line” are kind of cute, but I’ve seen message boards where the nazis are posting swasticas, and talking about gassing Jews.
we can’t create the perfect antifascists we would prefer by condemning the ones that actually exist
also, novels about revolutions on other planets are not real, and the experience of sitting quietly and reading a book will never be like the experience of a real political crisis
