Arizona high school student's racism even offends Arizona

Agreed. I don’t see Latino kids there either.

I see smudges. None are of the slur used.

You don’t see latino kids there… I didn’t go there.

What is your point?

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the FBI is working on that. Clearly this was an act of terrorism so there’s a direct line to the President, who is being updated on the status nightly.

Hello, new kid. Have you met @Falcor yet?

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It will!
Didn’t even bother with a proper user name. The quality of the trolls lately has been disappointing.

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yes, the mods have expressed their dissatisfaction with my content and contacted the FBI, who is working on that. Clearly this was an act of terrorism so there’s a direct line to the President, who is being updated on the status nightly.

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I kinda like this one. But yeah most of the trolls have been awful in the snooozefest sense.

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see? I’m worth keeping around

BEST IVE EVER SEEN CLASS OF 2016

do stay at least tangentially on topic?

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I can’t promise anything. My internet mores have grown organically out of having lived most of my natural life on it. But I thought those girls were funny as hell.

Title IX, which I referenced above. Again, you don’t have to agree with it, but as they say in the movie amadeus, “there it is”.

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And @Israel_B and @Jerry_Vandesic may realize that argument about hate speech ordinances is not relevant. There is no hate speech ordinance or rule at Desert Vista High School that’s at issue here.

The question is whether the school will intervene effectively to prevent future harm.

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On the internet it might be funny in a light.

But public school.

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I don’t think anyone is injured by IaL or BH4J, but that doesn’t mean some school administrator disagrees and is happy to suspend a student for a message they don’t like.

Having more than one person involved doesn’t really matter, and shouldn’t. I don’t think a principal suspending the entire student newspaper staff because they published something the administration didn’t like is any different than suspending a single student for a blog posting the administration didn’t like.

As to causing injury, that’s going to be a hard argument to make. The courts have set a very high bar regarding inciting violence, requiring that the threat be imminent, specific, and likely. There’s nothing in the examples that we are discussing that even comes close. So, what school administrators try to do is ban speech that could cause a disturbance. It’s a much lower bar, and almost completely arbitrary. And with this lower bar, school administrators are given the ability to punish speech they don’t like, from the racist speech in AZ to IaL in NC.

When you get out of High School you might eventually learn to see things differently.

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I don’t think either constitute religious oppression or bullying (though I think he means the Lesbian shirt, not the bong hits shirt?). Both are political statements, and should be afforded more protection than some jerks spouting the n-word, I’d argue.

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Perhaps a few days? Maybe expel the ringleader? I’m kind of sick of this racist (etc) shit just being ignored or glossed over, or being chalked up to “kids being kids”… well, no, it’s a bit bigger deal than that, given the history of race in America. It’s deeply unacceptable and it needs to go. A public school is not a place where kids should encounter hostility, but should be a place to get an education. I really don’t understand why it’s out of line to suggest that students who make the environment intolerable for others fall under the guise of protected speech.

And the kids who put up a swastika should be on the hook for that. It’s unacceptable.

You know what? it’s an online forum, posting animated gifs is fine. Stop acting like I don’t contribute to the conversation otherwise. I see no reason to engage with asshole who are coming over from stormfront in the same way I engage with regulars around here. If you literally don’t like how I interact here, then don’t interact with me. Otherwise, please attempt to disagree in a way that doesn’t illustrate how your so much smarter than stupid old me. [ETA] and by the you said that to me in the same post you, youself posted a (non-animate) gif… :wink:

And no, the use of the n-word by a black person, depending on the context such as in a rap song, is not the same thing as some lily white girls throwing the word around as a joke. People have written books about this very topic, actually:

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There’s no mention of hate speech in Title IX, and it doesn’t supersede the First Amendment. There’s certainly a lot of activity around Title IX at the university level right now, but no cases have been decided by a court that would label speech as hateful and therefore not protected by the constitution.

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