Or maybe because they have been victims of actual crimes?
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I donāt know where you, specifically, work, but your attitude bespeaks a certain ignorance concerning problems with diversity in the tech industry at large. Itās hard not to make the connection between low representation/retention of women, and the mass delusion that the tech world is a meritocracy.
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The Snark is strong with this oneā¦
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Re-fixed: Barbieās Blackhat Adventure
Honestly, it really is the only way I feel I can respond to @jandreseās argument hereā¦ I really donāt understand why the default should be āpresent as gender neutralā. I should be able to present as I see fit and not be accused of ālooking for attentionā when I do it. I mean, really? So, if Iām walking down the street and get catcalled Iām āasking for itā by being in a male space? Is that how it works?
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@anon61221983 is right that people shouldnāt have to do that. I used to use an internet handle or two in various online spaces, but starting around the time I first registered here at BB, I just figured I might as well use my real name. I am fortunate that my specific circumstances allow me to do this with (so far) no unwelcome side effects. I understand that a great many people arenāt as fortunate as I am in this regard and choose to conceal their identity, either out of necessity or simply because they prefer to remain private, but I do believe that everyone should be able to feel as free as I do to use their real name without fear of any negative consequence. They should be able toā¦ but they are not as free as I am to do so. And that is something that should change.
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You said what I meant in a very elegant way! Thank you!!!
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Hey, donāt blame the 90s for Totally Tattoo Barbie, that Totally Terrible idea was only 5 years agoā¦
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Something like this, maybe?
I think youāre ready for Hat of Gor.
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No, they shouldnāt have to, but that doesnāt mean itās not a good idea. I should be able to leave my bike unlocked on the street without having it stolen. She should be able to post code without sexist backlash. Unfortunately, these things do not seem to be agreed upon by everyone on the planet, so maybe itās prudent to take precautions.
Maybe, maybe not - that is a debatable, at the very least - leaving a valuable object somewhere isnāt quite the same thing though as actively hiding your gender in a public forum online. It might be something we āshouldā do because itās safer, but weāre (meaning women on the internet) not the problem, which seems to be what @jandrese is arguing. We are revealing ourselves to be women by not using gender neutral names āto get attentionā. I mean, what in the actual fuck does that even mean. If Iām having a conversation with someone, of course Iād like their fucking attention when I am talking/typing, just like Iām sure youād like mine, whether you are male or female.
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These scenarios are treated differently. In much of the world, having your bike stolen would be recognized as a crime. Even were it to occur, you would be entitled to certain legal protections. Even if they were only symbolic, they would codify the behavior and actions as infringing rather than accepting it. Internet communities can handle their TOS in similar ways. Some of them do prohibit sexist treatment and remarks. But it is hardly universal.
Another crucial difference is that women are not some fringe special-interest group, like, say, the small number of people who complain after they leave their bikes laying about. What percent of the population does this, 1%? Women comprise a majority of the people who exist. This puts it in a different perspective. Why would most people need to hide who they are? It is statistically probable that most people you communicate with are female.
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