We don’t need to name names. I would just like to ask people to cool it in this here thread.
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Fair, but it’s also a tool people have here and I think it’s unhealthy to ask them to stop using the tool this forum uses to help gauge and run its community. It seems conflicting when a Leader and the board’s system of working come in conflict.
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I am not telling. I am asking.
We are talking about how women don’t have a voice here and lo and behold, a woman is silenced.
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Exactly! And not the first!
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Seems like Orenwolf sees the flags, and knows who the flaggers are. If it’s an issue, he’s also indicated that it’s obvious on the back end. I trust both sides of that process.
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Good evening everyone. I just wanted to say that I haven’t been ignoring the @s and quotes directed at me since this morning. I’ve been working on my feet all day and am bone-tired. I don’t honestly think I have the mental acuity to respond to them (disappointing, I know!). Especially @Mindysan33 who put together a thorough post with numerous queries. Sorry, I just don’t have it in me tonight.
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I trust the process too, but every flag creates more work for him. I don’t want to unmask anyone for public tribunals, but can people just maybe cool off the flags in this thread unless you see something egregious? Again, I am just humbly requesting.
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Yeah, sorry. I wasn’t disagreeing with any thought wrote. I’m in awe of the amount of time that goes into corralling us wee bairns.
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Agreed, I too get the ask and understand it, but at the same time, this system is incredibly based around user interaction with it, and that’s almost the only way things get pushed in front of the mods and owners. Because of that, it also is one of the surefire ways to show patterns of behavior and all that, and one of the few tools us normal people have around here.
So for my part, I’m not flagging anything unegregious, but then again, I never have. I think really what we need in this thread are the moderators who have the power to react to flags to give it some super special attention and be quick to revert flagged messages that should not be flagged.
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I’ll be blunt: this is not a safe space for neurodiverse people particularly if you’re further along the spectrum. If you’re feeling extra shitty after interactions on this sort of forum or your therapist notices a regression in your mental state, or something, cut this place right out. This goes double for other places that are similar to here. I haven’t seen some of the shenanigans here that I’ve seen elsewhere, but a lot of the same people here are in other places as well.
Be careful.
You know your situation better than anyone else. If you don’t feel safe, you aren’t safe and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Orenwolf is omnipotent but not omnipresent. He has other things to do. And the community is already asking too much of him as it is. We are on our own until he gets around to us.
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I get that, but that’s the JOB. That’s the tools this community was put into, and uses. We absolutely are on our own , but BB did make the choice to use this toolkit.
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Sorry, I don’t mean to be this hard arguer on this, it’s just, this is a safety tool and the suggestion that people not use it, even for one thread, is a bit of a concerning slippery slope to me. We’ve got this entire system that has per post metrics and per user metrics on all of us and our behaviors and what not, and the safety system is very integral to all that.
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Again, everyone is free to use the tools at their disposal as they see fit.
But the flags that occurred about an hour ago drove a vital voice of reason to quit the conversation, and this is, what, the fifth time that this has happened on this thread in half as many days.
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I couldn’t agree more, in the sense that this space, like any space, is not for everybody. It is a community where we strive to be open and supportive, but what we are does not and cannot fit everyone. We have more women, sexual and ethnic minorities, and yes, neurodivergent individuals than most general interest sites, and that diversity is the whole strength of the community. That said, it’s also divergent in opinions and POVs. And hosts folks who are not shy about stating them. Some will not do well in that environment. And yes, if it is not for you, that’s fine. But fir a lot of us, that diversity of thought and experience is why we keep coming back, and why we are willing to spend so much of our precious time to try to keep it open and welcoming and respectful. And yet, as @Jesse13927 said, in a discussion of women being silenced, what are we seeing but women actively being silenced.
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Thanks.
I get what you’re saying, I do, I honestly do. But at the same time, this system has per user and per post scoring and metrics and everything else, and it seems like it has a just a few safety systems that are interwoven into it at an integral level. I get concerned when the suggestion is to limit the use of one of those systems, because for marginalized users, theoretically that system has helped remove more abusers than it has silenced accidentally.
That said, I don’t also think it’s out of line since the bad actors are going to do it anyway, to suggest that we need a higher mod presence on this thread than is typical if the goal is to revert the hidden / improperly flagged messages.
I promise, this is the last I’ll say on the ask 
Just, that’s where I’m coming from. Discourse has tons of metrics saved up on each and every one of us, including tons of ways to determine if we’re bad actors before we even post based on IP , email, etc. But that does require action from those that have access to those stats.
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No, I’m speaking specifically about strongly neurodivergent people here. A while ago, there was a more or less forced exodus of the more strongly neurodivergent people from this forum. A lot of people from that time are still here. If you are far along the spectrum, for your own sake, you must be careful here. It is simply not safe.
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Again, as i am not affected by that, i believe you. That is an experience i have not, and probably cannot, have. I would advise anybody to stay away from places that hurt you. I don’t know how to make it safer for you, and as i am just one internet rando, i don’t really expect that to impact you much. But it does make me sad that you feel unsafe here.
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Thank you so much for looking out for people here.
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I was one of them.
And don’t worry: we’re all still very much in contact, just not here.
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