Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 1)

You should maybe give some context for that so that those who have exceeded their WaPo limit don’t think it’s engineered.


Biogen hosted a superapreader event.
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And not a single rubber bullet or canister of tear gas in sight. Not even an arrest.

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Shades of college marching band all over. shudders

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I don’t think it requires that belief at all. It simply requires that in a large enough population brought together, some percentage will break the rules. If your rules require everyone to show more restraint than you have any reason to expect, or else the whole system becomes brittle, then you are making an unreasonable assumption.

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Sheriff is generally an elected position. In some places there is no other law enforcement body in regular contact with the public. There are procedures to override them in some places, but they tend to require that the same people who voted them in no longer want them.

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Well, somebody has to provide the bear with a soundtrack. But during these times, an mp3 should be preferable.

And the ones who break the rules bear some culpability for what they did. Even aside from the pandemic there is quite a lot of bad behavior on many college campuses – just look in any frat – and we don’t as a rule excuse the students on the basis of it being unreasonable to expect more restraint.

As far as I can tell from the public documents, Syracuse has been relatively responsible in their opening. Lots of testing, instruction moved online when possible, and a safety pledge consisting of common sense provisions.

The ability of colleges in NY (not just Syracuse) to open was part of an agreement with Governor Cuomo:

But he also said it’s up to each individual student to take precautions, such as wearing masks, social distancing and staying out of large crowds.

“If my college kid was going to college, it would be, really, up to my child to be smart,” he said. “To not do anything reckless. To not show up at the bar or be in front in the crowd.”

ETA: If someone on this thread had linked a video of 200 young people gathering for an impromptu party in a public park, the reaction would have rightly been condemnation. I don’t think that when the same cohort of people is on a college campus they suddenly lose all agency.

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If onebox had worked that would have done it for me.

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It’s not jumping to conclusions, it’s paying attention.

Why do you keep giving him airtime? That’s what he’s in this for.

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Oh Glob.

People carrying assault-style rifles are not uncommon when the Legislature is in session, usually when legislation involves gun restrictions.

Fuck this shit.

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Honestly, this COVID-19 thing has been a huge wake-up call for me. I typically don’t get the flu vaccine, but not because I think I’m immune. Rather, I have this weird old depression-era mindset (from my great-grandmother, maybe?) that there won’t be enough vaccines for everyone, and I want to donate mine to someone more at risk than myself. Also I work from home 80% (now 100%) of the time, so always thought the risk of spread was minimal.
I know better now. I’ll be getting a flu vaccine this year. Just sharing because there are all kinds of reasons people come up with for not getting vaccinated, which generally boil down to not knowing better. I hope our current situation helps shift the trend toward more vaccinations.
I’m glad when you explained it to your 60+ friend she came around. If only it were always so easy!

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Yeah sorry. Just concerned that your unstated /s became needed without that context.

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Thanks. The n=1 was a good wake-up call. It’s so easy to get caught up in everything and forget the overall context and science. If I saw one person get sick from eating too many apples, I wouldn’t automatically think apples were bad for you.
So, still concerned, but not as worried.

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Replying both to myself and to robertmckenna, re: Usain Bolt, to clarify:

I think I made it sound as if the Jamaican government had announced the test result. Rather, it appears that the Minister of Health publicly confirmed it, after it had become widely known. That’s different, so I wanted to clarify that.

It’s not clear to me who actually made the test result public in the first place. But it is clear that it wasn’t Usain Bolt himself.

According to the Miami Herald, Jamaica’s Prime Minister says that they’re going after anyone who violates the emergency rules, and Bolt won’t get any special treatment.

And again, sorry that I made it sound as if it was the government who let the result out. News reports simply say that the Health Minister confirmed what had become widely known.

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THL: Sniffly kids OK, after all

The Institute for Health and Welfare (THL) has relaxed guidelines urging that parents get Covid tests for children exhibiting symptoms of upper respiratory infection, according to Swedish-language daily Hufvudstadsbladet.

Many parents have found themselves in a tough predicament over the past few weeks as daycare centres have sent children home at the first signs of a runny nose while the testing system has been severely backlogged.

THL said that while kids should stay home when they’re under the weather, they don’t need to get tested unless their parents believe there’s a realistic chance they could have caught the virus. Schools cannot demand parents produce paperwork proving negative test results, according to the paper.

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I have to get them every year, with the understanding they may not be 100% effective. Vaccines against certain diseases can help you with variants, to a degree, too, but the expectation shouldn’t be “If I get the shot, I won’t get sick”. That’s why the people you mention tend to distrust them, I think, more than anything.

You might not sick at all, or you might not get as sick as you would have. I think the latter is more common than the former. Either way, people happily buy lottery tickets with a one in 300,000,000 chance of winning. If a flu shot gave me a 1% chance of not dying, I think it would be worth it, and they are much better than that.

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Infographic I found:

Here’s the 7-day average, per capita infection rate for the US and Canada

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I heard an argument yesterday between people saying “If winter is going to make it worse, why are the hot states the worst now?”

I am thinkin the reason the hotter states are more active is because of air conditioning. In hotter states, the behavior tends to be very winter-like. People keep the windows closed, don’t go outside as much, sealed in with each other enjoying the AC.

I hope I am wrong, but if so, then what they are going through now will be more normal when we all retreat indoors in cooler parts of the country.

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