Continuing coronavirus happenings (Part 1)

Vice president Mourão says government will buy vaccine developed in China against Covid-19: ‘Of course it will’.

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I was just saying I didn’t recognize the names… doesn’t mean others might… Or that I wouldn’t recognize them if I saw them (as they were character actors).

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Oh boy, I don’t think I’ve heard this conspiracy theory before. Seems legit.

I’d imagine doctors get “more money” from keeping their patients alive, but maybe I’m just misunderstanding the economics here.

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I’ve encountered that one in the wild. They can’t back it up, but they insist it is true.

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ds9-quark-shocked

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I definitely wouldn’t assume that in the US…

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Well, it might make the administration look bad. If a few (thousand) more people die due to lack of data, it’s a small price, right? (/s)

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Hospitals also don’t like this kind of data out. The UB BMI department tried to do some COVID modelling for Erie County, NY. The models looked so miserable the hospitals freaked out and refused to let the data be public any more. They were neat graphs with some cool machine learning under the hood, so it was a little disappointing that it didn’t ever become public.

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This threat “really reinforces what a dangerous virus COVID-19 is,” Tedros added. “It also reinforces to me just how morally unconscionable and unfeasible the so called ‘natural herd immunity’ strategy is. Not only would it lead to millions more unnecessary deaths, it would also lead to a significant number of people facing a long road to full recovery.”

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https://www.cell.com/med/fulltext/S2666-6340(20)30020-9

@anon29537550, would you do the summary? I’m exhausted. It’s 6ish, I’m on a work deadline for something way over my head on a weekend. Can’t say is this is really perfect, but it’s CELL, a reputable journal.

Summary for our German iPhones:

Gist: more kids are infected than the official numbers tell us. A highly specific antibodies (plural!) study from Bavaria finds.
Background: schools must stay open, as do childcare facilities. That’s a given in Germany’s discussion right now.

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I don’t understand that. That is like advising everyone to wear a mask but also mandate that it has to have a breathing hole where the mouth is.

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Just cough into your phone, please… MIT lab thinks it can diagnose COVID-19 from the way you expectorate

Not the “now cough” I remember from my physicals, but okay.

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When you go to someone’s home- you’re trying to threaten them and their family with harm.

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No big shocks here. They developed what certainly appears to be a very highly sensitive and specific antibody test for prior exposure to covid-19. That’s a very useful tool. They found that a lot more kids had had prior exposure than previous statistics would suggest, on the order of six-fold. And they found no association with type 1 diabetes.
Given that the vast majority of children with Covid are asymptomatic or very minimally symptomatic, that’s not a surprising finding. In my office we have yet to get a positive test on a child with symptoms, all ours have been in contact tracing situations. From a population epidemiology and disease monitoring standpoint, this could be quite useful. As a clinician, and looking at it with that bias, they say nothing about immunity (this was not what they were looking for, so not a criticism) and little about implications for disease progression, although the blurb about finding no association with diabetes was interesting. Potentially another tool in the toolbox.
Honestly, at this point, we are into the dull and not very headline grabbing kind of science that actually gets stuff done. I don’t expect earth-shaking findings, but step-by-step gathering of knowledge until we have this thing under control. It is boring and likely won’t get an all-star movie made about it, but it is how things actually work. Nice work on their part.

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Well shit…

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Just a reminder that human immune response is dangerously unpredictable. We base a lot of treatment and “statements of fact” on that 95% CI. By definition, that means we are wrong 5% of the time. There is a frequent argument that half of that error is on the too conservative side, and that is true, but the other half is where we get in trouble. WDKS.

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“ The state guidelines advise bus operators to keep school bus windows open at all times during operation, unless not possible due to extreme weather conditions.

It’s that strict adherence to the guidelines that has some Kingston families concerned, after their children experienced a freezing, wet ride home inside a school bus.

Students inside the school bus transporting them home from Silver Lake Regional Middle School recorded what the scene was like using their cellphones.

The video shows snow flying through the windows into the bus.”

Well - it was a good idea till people remembered that the world has weather.

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“There’s no such thing as bad weather, only the wrong clothes.”
(said someone who lives where winter coat drives for school kids aren’t necessary)

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Acronyms need updating: It’s Okay If You Are A Violent White Supremacist.

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