Democratic machine won't let Larry Lessig into the debates; will Sanders stand up for him?

You might want to read the comment I was replying to before putting words in my mouth… :slight_smile:

Sanders himself has said that he feels he has a much better chance of clinching the nomination if Biden enters the race; it’d split the Hillary vote in his favor.

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And you know, it does kind of sound like a name pollsters made up to fuck with the people they call.

Which of these candidates do you support: Larry Lessig, Donny Doolittle, Kelly Kookoo, or Willy Wonka?

Wait, the chocolate guy? Totally that one.

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“Even though Lessig is polling higher, and raising more money, than many
of the candidates in the running for the Democratic nomination”

Citation needed. Srsly, Lessig is polling higher than who? Martin O’Malley? “Other”? Oh, wait, he is the “other.”

Does he really expect anyone to take his plan seriously? What is the point? Just to register a useless protest vote? He clearly understands nothing about politics, and doesn’t want to take responsibility for anything beyond his one issue. Screw that.

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I have:
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I will take this as a hint that you have very little idea just how broken Congress is. Congress can do A LOT of things, but changing the law to discontinue the campaign donations of their corporate patrons: Never And the reason is simple: legislation that benefits the donors is their top priority, so why would the donors fund the campaigns of politicians that are going to end their influence? This assertion of yours ONLY makes sense if you have no clue what is going on, but I forgive you.

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It’s Very Very important to be pure.

If legislators can’t change the law, then the law won’t get changed. Lessig’s point of view on this issue (that as President he’d somehow be able to change the law) is way stupider than what you’re accusing me of. His proposal is impossible - mine is just very difficult. But then, it’s obvious that Lessig has no clue what’s going on, so if you’re contributing to his nonsense I can’t blame you for not having a clue either.

It seems to me that no matter the opinions expressed here or elsewhere, the people should be allowed to accept or reject his proposal rather than the political and journalistic elite.

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Welcome to BoingBoing! This is how Cory rolls (although, you’ve been here a year and a half, you should know that by now)

Thanks. Good read. Took a while to click on it because a certain trolling author has made me leery of anything with “vox” in the link.

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Quick question: Have you read Republic, Lost?
(Same question, different medium) Have you watched a 3 minute version, or The TED Talk, or any of the various videos of his 1 hour presentation?

If you had, you would know that Lessig has laid out four (two conventional, 2 unconventional) political strategies for enacting “The Grant and Franklin Project” (his description of publicly financed political campaigns)

  1. The Conventional Game: Pass the Far Elections Now Act.
    (Status: Died in a previous Congress https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr269)

  2. An Unconventional (Primary) Game: Run nonpolitician candidates in
    primaries, then in the general election.
    (https://mayday.us/ - failed initial outing but still trying)

  3. An Unconventional Presidential Game: Use the presidential election
    cycle to leverage fundamental change by running reform presidential
    candidates. This reform candidate makes a single two-part pledge. If
    elected he or she will hold Congress hostage until it passes
    fundamental reform, and he or she will resign from office once that
    reform is enacted.
    (where we are now)

  4. The Conventional Game: calling for an Article 5 Convention
    (TBD)

Today I learned from @semiotix: Publicly financed political elections have no appreciable purpose.
Good to know.

This! Why the strident need to squelch input at a time when the party is forming its platform? We’re thirteen months ahead of the general election and the earliest primary (Iowa caucus) isn’t until February 1 - Four months from now. The time for ideas is NOW!

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Well, thanks for supporting my argument with sources, I guess!

Unless you’re saying he’s going to literally hold Congress hostage by staging a military coup or something, it’s quite obvious that Lessig has no idea what’s going on.

You could use this logic to allow anybody into the debates, though. At some point you have to have a gatekeeper to determine if a candidate is serious about their campaign, and Lessig has made it pretty clear that he isn’t, really.

I take the fact that I am not allowed into both the Democrat and the Republican debates to be evidence of a grand conspiracy against me.

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Don’t worry; the Libertarians will probably allow you into their debates. (As long as you haven’t sacrificed a goat or something.)

Why? The Republicans don’t.

Of course, if they actually had some serious candidates…

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But they can! If enough people make noise about him, he’ll be included in more polls, and if enough people support him in polls he can debate.

It’s entirely down to the people — and to him, of course, to get the word out about himself.

But the journalists don’t “owe” him a platform before he does that for himself, any more than they “owe” anyone else a free platform who randomly decides one morning that they want to be president.

I just want Vermin Supreme in the debates.

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