You’re forgetting that quite a few African Americans live in the south.
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I’m not particularly thrilled about Rubio (too much boots on the ground) or Cruz (too much Gawd), but there is no way I vote for Yog-Sothoth’s daughter over either one.
I’ve voted third party or write in more times than I’ve voted D or R for president and I can certainly do that again.
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Except for how the system itself is constructd so that his running would split votes so the most worst outcome owuld happen instead of just showing that a large percentage of people want him in.
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You’re forgetting that quite a few African Americans live in the south.
A good point, but their limited power against gerrymandering and other disenfranchisement is a display of Southern inadequacy.
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Not to mention that they don’t generally identify as “conservatives.”
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No, I’m not.
The political culture of the Confederacy is still diabolically evil, and the African-American population of the South are the primary victims of it.
Criticising “The South” is not the same thing as criticising all of the people who live there.
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I love how you came in literally 5 posts after me to prove the point of my second paragraph.
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Why are you so alarmed at Clinton, anyway? You pretty much know what you’re going to get with her… a cross between her husband and Barack Obama’s presidencies with a bunch of pragmatism and ruthlessness thrown in after a few months of GOP obstruction. I bet she won’t be able to get through her first term without being impeached because after about six months (OK probably less), she’ll take Obama’s attitude of “fuck you guys in the Senate”, but isn’t as capable of keeping her nose clean.
A Trump or Cruz presidency would be much more alarming, IMO… the prospect of having House, Senate and Presidency in GOP hands at the same time is kind of scary on its own, but with those two terrible people as president… ick.
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“conservatives”
That word doesn’t mean what “conservatives” think it means. There are things about Sanders that call him out as the only conservative in the race on either side.
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Well, I’m certainly glad we’re all being reasonable and not comparing people to evil elder gods of chaos.
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That’s Jeremy Corbyn over here in the UK.
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Well, there is Herman Caine… And… um. I dunno… no one else? Where is Clarence Thomas from?
I agree about the confederacy ideology being evil. But focusing on the south as having some sort of sonderweg on race does let the rest of the country off the hook to a large extent. Let’s not forget that Oregon was founded as a white state and much of the redlining that confounded integration happened in the north as well. Racism was and continues to be a national problem, not a southern problem.
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Very much so; US society on a national level is fundamentally based upon racism and the exploitation of poverty. Ain’t nowhere exempt from that.
But Ye Olde Confederacy is still something special, reliably raising the bar when it comes to shameless bastardry. The US South didn’t get its global reputation by chance; it earnt it, and tragically continues to do so.
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Without trying to mitigate southern racism and history (which I know about well, as I do live here), there also is not so useful stereotypes about southern whites, especially poor whites in rural areas, that isn’t helpful in sorting out that history - while many were racist, some were not (though, admittedly few, there are instances of cross-racial solidarity, even in the south), and as most institutions in the south were dominated by the elites… which exploited them both, with whites slightly less exploited.
I suppose I object because it’s generally just used to give the rest of America a pass. Where ever African Americans went, they were generally met with the same horribleness. I think its’ probably more productive to look at the dynamics between the regions, especially from the nadir period (teens/20s) when the KKK was a nation wide organization.
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Probably because I evaluate candidates based on their (known) records of personal integrity as much or more as their current political platforms. It’s why I have a lot of respect for Sanders despite my doubts about the soundness of his ideas.
If there’s anyone, since the days of the Tweed Ring, who has been more single mindedly dedicated to gaining political influence and then leveraging that influence into personal wealth than Bill and Hillary, please name names.
Do you really think becoming POTUS is the best way to leverage political influence to make a ton of money? No offense, but that doesn’t really seem to compute. Although becoming POTUS seems to be a great way to make yourself look aged beyond your years…
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POTUS can be a path to wealth. The Clinton’s have earned $141M over just the last 7 years.
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Yeah, but it’s hardly the easiest path to wealth and influence… if someone wanted to leverage their political influence to accrue wealth, then there are plenty of less stressful, publicly prominent ways to do it. Especially if you’re Hilary Clinton.
No, I think she wants the job because she, rightly or wrongly, thinks she can do it best, she wants to be president and, hey, she’s in a good position to run, so why not try? She can handle the stress, she’s done it before.
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I think she wants the job because she wants the job.
Yesterday she even said she wasn’t a natural politician! I think it’s all she’s ever been. She clearly loves the game of politics.
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