From the linked article in @KathyPartdeux’s post in Today’s Mass Shooting:
McManus said that all eight victims - five women and three men - had transported themselves to area hospitals and were in stable condition. The person in the most serious condition was shot in the back.
Two other people were grazed but refused treatment, McManus said.
The police chief added that authorities were still looking for the shooter but that he didn’t think the immediate area surrounding the bar was in any danger.
Right? I would like to see the stats on how many home invasions are stopped by police intervention, especially broken down by property loss only vs. injury/loss of life. Property loss can be dealt with. Injury/loss of life needs to be balanced against the injury/loss of life caused by police + 40% police domestic violence rate. My guess: that ratio is upside down (police cause more injury/loss of life than they prevent when it comes to home invasion)
I’ve had a thought that I’ll just throw out there.
If you want a word that has the roots and rhetorical power of “Abolition” or “Defund”, but makes it clear that there’s something else, something better, going to be put in the place of your current policing structures- may I suggest
I seriously wish Chicago could reduce its expenditure on policing programs
But sadly, Chicago has a problem with shootings with real costs and real victims
1209 shot, so far, in 2020!
18 murders in 24 hours!
And a man leaves Chicago for Canada, simply to keep his family safe!
In the meantime, there will probably be another 30 dead before this topic closes!
I dont think anyone here thinks that Chicago doesnt have a gun violence problem. But continuing to throw money at ineffectual police programs hasn’t helped so far. The problems in Chicago are to do with systemic racism, a historically corrupt police system ( see systemic racism), and the free flow of guns from Indiana.
A non-trivial portion of those shootings were carried out by the police themselves. Chicago PD fired 2,623 bullets at citizens over a 6-year span, averaging a shooting every five days. Four out of five times they’re shooting at an African-American male.
Clearly “spending a lot on police and sending them out into the community to shoot at people” hasn’t been working, particularly for communities of color. Let’s try something new.
My daughters and I have been nearly killed by Chicago police a minimum of a dozen times (I assume there are times I don’t know about, which they won’t tell me because they know I’d be upset). Not for being criminals, merely for being inconveniently in the way while the cops were intent on their true mission, which is to hurt and kill as many black people as possible.
Meanwhile, the last time the cops showed up when I called 911 for help was when I was naive enough that when they asked for the race of the perpetrator (if you don’t give it, 911 will follow up and ask) I said I thought possibly Latino. As it turns out, he was white, so they came to me and said “yup, he’s confessed to everything and admits he’ll keep doing it, so we suggest you move as far away as possible.” No police report, because they felt it would be a waste of time.
That was in the early 1980s…nearly 40 years ago. They don’t bother showing up if the perpetrator is white. And of course we all know not to call 911 if we think the suspect is black. That’s signing someone’s death warrant, and we’re not sociopaths.
So yeah, there’s a real problem with violence, death, and the Chicago police. Just not how you’re portraying it.
Throwing more money at the police for years prior to Mayor Lightfoot getting elected did not help. Why do you think doubling down on that strategy will all of a sudden start working?
It’s really frustrating to have to keep pointing to the blatant and obvious and have people keep denying them. But here we are.