But that doesn’t mean they aren’t a problem - not just in terms of industrial espionage, but for anyone involved with, or writing about/interacting with those involved in, human rights issues, especially if they’re related to China. Anyone in that position should be seriously concerned about Facebook giving away data because it’s a big fucking deal. The Chinese government has done some pretty nasty shit to those people, including in the US. The problem is not just the espionage itself but how China acts on that data - people could literally end up being imprisoned, tortured and/or dying as a result of this.
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Have I mentioned…
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And yet the BBS still has a FB account… just say’n
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Which does not notably differentiate them from the USA. Haspel was confirmed to the CIA just last week.
My argument here is not “defend the People’s Glorious Revolution!”. It’s “nationalism sucks, and there are no good guys in this contest”.
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But it’s not because of nationalism that Huawei is being identified as a problem - it’s because they’re a problem (e.g.for people in the US and their friends/family in China).
If Facebook is sharing data with the CIA which they use to identify “terrorists,” then that’s also a (similar) problem. But Y also being a problem isn’t necessarily relevant to a discussion of X being a problem (and certainly doesn’t mean that X isn’t a problem). I mean, yeah, shittiness abounds…but each instance is still shitty on its own.
It’s shit-turtles all the way down.
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If BB ever decides to take a poll about whether to continue using mouth-eye photos, I would tick “Nay”, just sayin’.
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Well since the Chinese government already has the contents of the security clearance forms and interviews for everyone who has a US security clearance, I wouldn’t be too worried about this.
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Yup.
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I’m a little touchy regarding Sinophobia at the moment, as this exchange happened just yesterday:
…and its not as if anti-China politics have ever needed any help in the USA.
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Indeed I would say the one on this thread is especially horrifying. But maybe that’s just because of who it is.
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We’d need to find Rob a new hobby first.
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The eyes are mirrors mouths of the soul.
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We have to stop saying “our data” or “your data” is being sold by Facebook.
Once you put it on there, it’s their data.
Had deleted Facebook months-ish ago, but not Instagram—-really loved Instagram—but now it has to go as well. R.I.P.
I gave up on FB an extremely long time ago, I have live in Toyko and a picture of a 16 year old me on there lol, I only use it to link my nerd accounts and things of that nature
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Hmmm… I’m conflicted because I actually like my Huawei products. Maybe there’s a good reason for that… uncomfortable but not really scary. Maybe I just haven’t woken up enough yet today. Where is caffeine…
They believe in living dangerously? Or… maybe it’s a case of “do as we say, not as we do”?
Gotta get these anti-Facebook posts in front of the eyeballs that are glued to Facebook somehow. What better way than through Facebook itself?
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It was well before Trump that the determination was made that Huawei steals intellectual property, engages in industrial espionage in United States, designed communications equipment which allows unauthorized access by the Chinese government, sells phones with malware that can listen to calls, track users, and make online purchases, and are in general a security threat to anyone who uses their products.
Knee jerk cries of nationalism without regard to the facts is not a virtue at any time.
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I guess I’m actually relieved that Trump is, to some degree, in the pocket of China, thanks to entanglements of family business interests. I mean, he’s not going to advance US economic interests wrt China (thanks to his total ignorance about economic issues, he’s not doing so with any other countries either), and he needs to appear to “be tough” on them, but he’s happy to make some noise and avoids doing anything that will piss them off too much. So there’s that.
Honestly, given that, I’d be surprised if Trump doesn’t eventually direct the Commerce Department to help out Huawei.
ZTE Corp. is another Chinese supplier who we has been labeled a bad actor by our government and governments around the globe. Trump really wants them to succeed.
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Yeah, after not only spying but also violating sanctions (against North Korea and Iran, both of which Trump claims to find important), and Trump suddenly is concerned about preserving “jobs in China.” It’s pretty funny how transparent his “tough on China” stance is actually pure posturing.
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