Feds say video of Jeffrey Epstein cell 'no longer exists' — accidentally destroyed by jail staff, oops

I agree that the level of inept incompetence is so staggering that every damn day, I seriously have to wonder how I ended up living in the freakin’ Twilight Zone.

Insert ‘all of the above’ gif here ____.

Whatever the actual specifics, it certainly seems to have culminated in a perfect storm of fuckery.

I simply refuse to waste my time and energy on something that, for all intents and purposes, simply isn’t ‘knowable.’

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It’s an unfortunate state of affairs for all his victims who will never probably never get any real justice.

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Man, what a series of unlucky coincidences. What are the odds?

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I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I didn’t actually expect them to get that, even if Epstein had lived.

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I’m confused, so was the video found or not found? Because this exact thing was reported last month that they did find it. But this more recent report says it was lost. Which one is it?

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As statements, both of those are true, yes. But each option requires a radically different set of events to have transpired in reality. One scenario simply requires breathtaking incompetence from an institution known for just that. The other scenario requires a fairly wide-ranging conspiracy, flawlessly executed by all involved, despite the fact that the key player is an institution known for being spectacularly incompetent. So… /shrugs

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And as an observer from the outside, I don’t know which events actually did transpire.

Being a lowly cog in the overall scheme of life, I fully understand and accept the likelihood that I WILL PROBABLY NEVER KNOW.

Dude, there’s nothing “simple” about any of this.

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Old saying:

Once is luck.

Twice is coincidence.

Three times is enemy action.

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And to grease palms to stand by and watch him kill himself.

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I am skeptical about a conspiracy, but if there were a conspiracy, why would it need to be “fairly wide-ranging”? It seems like there would only need to be a handful of people involved to make it look like the so-called “suicide watch” failed, and the video of his cell was actually video of a different cell. Chalk those up to incompetent staff. Happens all the time.

Let me guess, it’s an 18 1/2 minute gap that for some reason shows a different cell.

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Because the accusation is that someone outside the prison system initiated this, someone who would have to have intermediaries do the actual conspiring and logistics planning, working with a variety of people inside the prison system (not just the few guards, but also IT, management, etc.).

The prison system is incompetent about a number of things, but one thing they do care about is preventing people from outside the system, e.g. criminal gangs, from working with prison guards to impact operations within prisons. So they’re vigilant about that, at least. Which makes actual incompetence much, much more likely than guards being on the take (and not just operating with uncharacteristic competence in executing the conspiracy, but also then competently pretending to be incompetent).

One scenario is a lot more simple than the other, and is consistent with normal operations. It’s a chain of fuck-ups, as per usual.

Generally, if something goes wrong, and it could have gone wrong because it was working (i.e. failing to work) the way it normally did, or because it suddenly started working in a different way, there’s an easy answer. A further problem specific with conspiracy theories is that they usually require a degree of competence on the part of the conspirators that just doesn’t exist.

There’s a reason why real-world conspiracies mostly consist of some person or persons royally fucking something up and then roping in other people to help in the ass-covering exercise.

I think it’s obvious that in this particular era, the elites actually don’t give a single shit what our opinion of them is.

Their contempt for us seems intentionally taunting.

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Jeffery Epstein may have killed himself.

at this point though? I think all at the jail up to Barr should be held as responsible as if he was murdered.

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I’m no fancy-schmancy prison IT guy, but shouldn’t there be an offsite backup somewhere?

That would be true if the point of the recordings was to enhance accountability for the prison staff. When the point is increase accountability for prisoners without increased staff accountability, then the staff is going to be motivated to set things up to provide easy access for selective deletion.

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What bugs me is: no backups? Me, a lowly home user, has automatic daily incremental backup for my NAS, laptop, and desktop. C$125 USB 3.0 4TB drive. The MCC can’t afford that?

Also, doesn’t Norton still have an undelete program? Perhaps the surveillance system runs on an OS that scrubs files instead of just marking the file as deleted, leaving the contents for later overwrite. But that sounds dumb.

It just seems to me that there had to be some effort to get these files deleted. But that sounds too conspiracy-y to me. I feel dirty thinking such thoughts.

Epstein was killed by the Nothing, and the most recent records of his existence are disappearing. Soon all traces and memory of him will be gone.

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Well, large-scale surveillance systems like prisons and casinos use are different beasts than your typical mass storage. By definition all of the contents are being constantly updated.

If you have a massive system with cameras covering every cell or square inch of gaming floor you typically preallocate space for each channel and use a ring buffer. Newest video constantly overwrites the oldest, and you know you’ll always have the space for X days of Y cameras. There’s no undeleting that, you always reuse the same blocks to keep fragmentation down.

You’ll have the drives in a RAID of course, but preserving a “tier” of storage (as talked about in the article) is the backup and you only do it when there’s a need.

Do you remember the cop that recently got caught fondling a corpse? The only reason he got caught is because he turned his body cam back on immediately afterwards. Those body cams work the same way. They constantly record to a ring buffer in memory but only save video when the officer hits the button. What he didn’t realize is they also save about a minute of video from before record is pressed, to capture the events leading up to the incident.

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I should have noted: I know nothing about these large-scale surveillance systems. I get that you can’t save everything forever, unless cost is no issue.

But I keep thinking there should be more storage. Above the 1st tier of storage, how about a 2nd tier saving highly-compressed stills every few seconds per camera? Or only when motion detected?

How about a simple procedural change: when there’s a suicide watch on, do some extra preservation.

Certainly the folks writing the software must think about this sort of stuff… they must have spent time thinking about and implementing authentication, access control, digital signatures, and many other forensic ideas. Yet a “clerical error” can wreak such damage?

I know. I sound like a crank. Too much 4chan lately.