General Moderation Topic

User space_monkey anonymized at user request.

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User andrew_singleton has been asked not to return after unloading on another user for what appears to have been years of pent up anger.

I’ve said this before but - hello, internet! Not all people are not going to agree with what you say or how you say it. People are also going to say things you don’t agree with, either. Your choices here are to 1) engage with respect, 2) don’t engage at all, 3) use the ignore feature if you really don’t want to deal with that user or 4) move along.

Alternatively, if you feel a post or user violates the guidelines, flag their post, and we’ll investigate. You’ll note none of those options include derailing topics by attacking others.

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User waterloonie given a brief timeout for tone-policing members to “not care so much” in a place they come to to, presumably, not care so much. Which begs the question of why they felt the need to point out people were caring too much in the first place, but hey.

I think don’t post stuff you don’t care about, and/or for topics that warrant frivolity, don’t suddenly care about stuff you weren’t caring about before are probably good rules to live by.

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User Rindan given a timeout for levelling attacks at other members.

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User CreekyOne anonymized at user request.

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This post is, probably, the most personally upsetting post I’ve had to write here.

User Karl_Jones has been permanently banned from the BBS.

It appears Karl maintains a third party site where he keeps a record of his posts. That’s fine, but at one point, he chose to post a quote from another BBS user to their site. This user requested that their name (but not their comment) be removed from that site.

As I mentioned in my earlier post on this topic, this is a public forum, and folks are free to copy the post of the BBS elsewhere. However, we also expect that users of this BBS will treat fellow users with respect and honour their wishes should they not want their posts on another site. While we can’t control third parties or their sites, we can choose to remove users from the BBS who will not extend this small measure of kindness to their fellow members.

Additionally, users (and Authors) who choose to identify as female face increased acts of misogyny, intimidation, and mistreatment online. I have personally witnessed this sort of behaviour in the sort of comments, email, and other posts directed towards female Authors on Boing Boing itself. But even here on the BBS, we have been called in to see Private Messages sent to female users often written with extreme amounts of abusive language not repeated to users who do not openly identify as female. As the user affected by Karl’s actions, in this case, falls into both cases (being female, and having faced online harassment in the past), I asked this user to consider the request in this light and simply remove their name .

Karl did not respond to either my request, nor the polite request of the user themselves. Instead, they chose to double-down, by creating a profile page for the user on their site, and creating more entries. At the same time, they also decided to brand the request as a request to “self-censor.” This, more than anything else, tells me what I, as a moderator, need to know about this user - that another member’s name had apparently become property of Karl - that despite the request asking only to remove a name, and not either Karl’s own words, nor even the quote he was responding to, they apparently considered that something they owned enough that a request to remove it was “self-censoring”.

At this point, my course of action from a moderation standpoint was clear, but to make matters worse, I was then directed to a post where Karl had specifically asked permission from another user to repost their content . Apparently, users he respects are given the right to choose how their name and words are presented, but not users who identify as female. or that are otherwise undeserving.

I am truly, truly amazed, disheartened, and angry that another user’s name would be such a point of contention. However, IMHO it goes to show how entitlement, privilege, and systemic bigotry can take even simple requests and produce ugly, terrible results.

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I’m sorry this had to happen.

But having gone and looked at the guy’s site, this is by far a good move. You’ve made BoingBoing a better, safer place for this action.

I’m not going to link to it here but suffice to say, while it’s okay legally to post comments here, cyberstalking is most definitely against the law.

EDIT: Also, having looked at this site, I change my opinion I had earlier about ignore being functionally good enough. It’s absolutely not, and this guy’s site and his continued harrassment after the fact and before of users who present / are female is clearly signs that I was extremely wrong, and so I’d like to apologize to anyone who I wronged with my ignorance/arrogance. It was out of line, and it wasn’t done with the knowledge I have now. I have that knowledge now, and I don’t know why I thought BB was immune from that behavior when I’ve seen it so often in other places. That’s entirely on me. I like to think I’ve been low impact on this site except for occasional dustups about ads, but if I have wronged you, I’d like to personally apologize. I don’t ever want to be seen like that user that hosts that site.

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User OldSilverFox Anonymized at user request.

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User Ludd given a timeout for trying to police who should be “allowed” to use the term “Black”. If it isn’t obvious to everyone here by now that racism is a thing and allowing those who have been affected choose how to be addressed is quite possibly the bare minimum of respect one can give at this time, well, I don’t know what to say.

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User oktroj has been asked not to return after, as far as I can tell, declaring war on the entire community then lobbing b-class insults and “I know you are, what am I”-style insults while being shocked - shocked - that racism would be flagged by the community here as, I don’t know - racism.

Masks, and specifically the lack thereof as a metaphor for respect, are really becoming harbingers of assholery in ways I had not anticipated.

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I put this into google translate…

“asked not to return for being an utter dick”.

:grin:

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“Florida Man” Alex_Miami has been sent on permanent vacation for equating discussions on how to protect oneself from police brutality and excessive force as literal treason and giving comfort to the enemy.

When your political opponents become enemy combatants to you, you’ve lost the plot - something everyone should consider during this political climate, IMHO.

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Thanks for this. We spoke about this privately

Part of why I asked to be anonymized and why I severely cut back on posting was someone posting revenge porn of a friend + some scary harassment I endured.

I appreciate how hard you work to make this a safe space, and understand you can’t control things off-site.

We appreciate your work.

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User don_simpson1 has been asked not to return for first suggesting that the murder of George Floyd was justified because he had a criminal record, with a sprinkle of flipping out at the mod team when - predictably - the userbase flagged his post immediately.

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Especially after a quick perusal of his previous comments…

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Another banned poster who was no angel!

(Heavy sarcasm included.)

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User comedian has been given a timeout for, again, focusing on meta minutae on the periphery of an issue, rather than the issue itself.

A lot of us are, I think, the types to end up in wild digressions about red vs blue, mac vs windows, star trek vs star wars, redhat vs suse - but when you consistently post in topics of import, ignoring the topic entirely and instead focusing on that minutae, it becomes a source of derailment every time one posts, and in many ways is worse than being contrarian, because the position one is arguing really has nothing to do with the original post at all.

As I said, this often happens in good faith and in no way do I want to discourage mutants being mutants, but when the majority of your posts are this way, it begins to become apparent that disruption is the point, and that’s not constructive.

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dwm vs fluxbox

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user ilris_ota given a brief timeout for reposting moderated comments trying to gatekeep the type of replies they receive.

I’ve said this before, but posting a text comment on a public forum will, sooner or later due to the nature of the medium result in people misinterpreting or misunderstanding your intent or position. This is the nature of forums. Your remedy is to clarify your position, or ignore the response. One of the options is not to tell others what they are allowed to respond to, or how.

The only exception to this is if the response goes against our community guidelines, at which point, flag the response and we’ll investigate, don’t respond to it.

Thanks.

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User ilris_ota anonymized at user request.

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