Well, you could knock me down with a feather!
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Sure, being told you canāt dance or ask for directions has given you an intimate look at the worst harm stereotyping does to people, and that gives you all the perspective you need to assert itās not so bad to do with women or racial minorities.
ā¦I guess that actually proves your point about stereotypes sometimes being based in fact, seeing as one of the Caucasian male stereotypes is being completely and obstinately blind to the different experiences of other people. Iām not sure that counts for credit, though.
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You wrote earlier that āstereotypes help human beings navigate more happily and easily through life.ā How could that possibly be true unless people let stereotypes influence their decisions and actions?
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āBeing awareā of stereotypes is waaaaaaaaaay different than saying shit like āstereotypes are true (except when theyāre about me)ā
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Before 2010 they could rely on time-tested stereotypes, passed on by their mothers, aunts, and grandmothers, to guide them through life. </hpsaudio_mode>
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But stereotyping encourages people to make heavy decisions based on those stereotypes. If you take identical resumes but one with a male name and one with a female name, the male name will be rated as better qualified and get a higher starting salary. Police officers are more likely to pull over someone of color. Defendants claiming āstand your groundā are more likely to prevail if the victim is black.
The fact that you cannot imagine how this stereotype can be turned negative indicates that you probably have not been the victim of such stereotypes.
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Thank God Iām old. Iām starting to get excited about my birthdays again!
(One year less! Letās have cake!)
Hey! Iām a Caucasian male, and I definitely donāt know when to shut up!
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Actually I would expect the past to be more progressive in terms of āgirls doing thingsā really. By todayās standards Iām pretty sure some of the old Ladies Home Journal covers might be too progressive.
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No man you are so way fucking off base I donāt even know where to start. Iām almost tempted to think youāre joking, but there is this cheerful naive earnesty about your comments that says you are deadly serious.
Itās the little, mild, casual, obviously generally true and really quite harmless stereotypes that underpin socially entrenched sexism racism and general intolerance. And while they might have their roots in āhuman natureā, and be a common anthropological trait, they are destructive forces in our communities, and the civilised thing to do is to train yourself to avoid them.
In fact, if you get out enough, you might even find they really are all bullshit.
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Hmmmā¦ any chance you relied on stereotypes in arriving at that a priori conclusion?
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[quote=āhpsaudio, post:19, topic:13124, full:trueā]
And Iāll retort by asserting that some or many racial stereotypes are not inherently bad. [/quote]
Yes, they are.
Good, because we are already aware that you are privileged and blind to it, so no one needs to see a list of white man whines.
No, itās not useful or true, and it hurts women so it should go away. It also hurts men. So it should go away. Itās bad, not good, and should not be perpetuated.
It is a prejudice, usually said in anger by some one who has been hurt by a man. Itās not useful either. And no, not to be overly literal, no men are pigs. Some men are entitled, abusive, unpleasant, narcissistic, and generally horribleā¦ but they arenāt pigs. Associating the bad behavior with a gender just excuses and normalizes it though.
Do they apply to the races, to the people you know, or just your unexamined justifications for believing what you do? Waitā¦ I doubt you can answer that intelligently.
Yes, we do. Thatās why we should stay on top of it. That is also why I considered wasting my time replying to you worth the effort.
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It was an a posteriori conclusion.
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Possibly, but it was one that apparently confirmed some stereotype you have about white males.
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The Wikipedia page also says:
It covers a range of topics, from heavier topics such as dealing with racism, sexual abuse, and feelings for boys, as well as lighter topics such as fashion, beauty, skin care, embarrassing moments. There are also often recipes, gift ideas, and interviews.
Those assholes!
And since Girlās Life has nothing to do with the Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts, weāre comparing apples and oranges here. I canāt find a magazineāI see they used to have a magazine called American Girl, which is no longer in print and has nothing to do with the current American Girl magazine, and their adult leadership magazine has been out of print since 2009, but looking at the website
Although somewhat distressingly it has a picture of Barbie right there on the Brownie section, there seems to be loads of Girl Power stuff.
Are we done? Weāre done here.
Sloppy, manā¦real sloppy. I get it, they have similar names. But thatās all.
Au contraire.
Most people (in my experience) who are clueless in discussions about race and sex are white males. Doesnāt mean I believe that all white males are clueless about racism and sexism - I hope Iām not! (although I probably am).
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Citation required.
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If a poster was describing their experience of discrimination, you could factually deduce they were probably of a minority that is discriminated against, without applying a stereotype.
Just try that in reverse.
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If you wanted to compare and contrast two magazines marketed to difference sexes you would do better to take something like GQ vs Glamour.
Itās not like there would be that much contrast; douchey v.s. vapid.
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So youāre saying that only white males can discriminate on the basis of race and sex?
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