High school forces girl to wear shame suit for dress code violation

I’d have tried to see how far that would go. Do pictograms count? ASCII codes?

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One can only hope the law of unintended consequences bites them repeatedly on the ass, yes.

Sorry I guess I wasn’t specific enough - I don’t mean as something anyone is forced to wear - I’m against that 100%. I’d be all over that as a protest outfit though. As a guy, girl - doesn’t matter to me. The point was public shaming and branding doesn’t solve problems, or punish the correct people. This was the subject of a fairly famous book - usually taught in high school English class - using the same dress code in protest should make the point most eloquently.

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say what?

so, for arguments sake, if the dress code was “all students must wear appropriate makeup”, and the boys were made to wear masks when they failed to comply, then: hooray, equality?

Yeah, I was just re-thinking what I said and thought “hrm. I don’t actually think forcing a kid to dress in something ostensibly embarrassing is useful or right.” Shame isn’t a useful or effective punishment or deterrent.
My response was more of a reflex against how females are shamed and restricted in their clothing in ways males are not.
As a protest outfit, that would be awesome.

off topic, but ohh I want one of those!

Actually, I think it might be a violation. Caveat: I’d have to go read the relevant portions of FERPA to decide.
Sure, a kid getting detention or doing laps is public, out there for everyone to see, but the punishment is the detention or laps and other students seeing the punishment being acted out a side effect. Also, for most detentions, a student actually meets with the principle in private. The punishment here was public humiliation. The administration made the student body a participant in the punishment and depended upon peer shame to correct the student’s behavior.
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My school wasn’t, neither was my kid’s. She got a bollocking for bleaching her hair from someone with a purple bob and a nose stud.

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What.

In your hypothetical situation do the girls also have to wear the same masks? If so then hooray, equality. Frankly I don’t have an issue with the whole dress code thing that happened here. Perhaps since she was new to the school they should have let it ride for a day, but that is kind of the parents responsibility to find these things out ahead of time. My issue is with bringing sexuality into this argument…just because she is a woman.

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well that sucks.

did she point it out at the time? :slight_smile:

oh, come on; the second comment here compared this non-event to fucking sharia, which is particularly ironic because, y’know, if she’d been forbidden to go to school at all, this might not have happened in the first place.

don’t even bother, man. just post some condescending image macros and call it a day.

My kid? Oh, helz yeah. It didn’t seem to ameliorate the situation, strangely enough…

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nothing would have, so might as well make the best of it.

good parenting; keep it up. :thumbsup:

on a strict first amendment point of view, public education is already worse than prison because it’s literally state indoctrination. drawing the line at a dress code seems kind of silly.

personally, i liked the dress code because, as a poor, it kind of leveled the playing field. uniforms would be better as long as they’re comfortable and look good. maybe the Department of Education could cut a volume discount with Hugo Boss and get something snappy.

Even with a dress code / school uniform, I think the rich kids usually do a pretty god job of making their status clear.

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well, yes, but in my experience it did help somewhat.

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At that stage of my life, I had no desire to test those kinds of boundaries. I wanted to get out, get far away, so my plan was to get a scholarship to college and leave as soon as possible. My whole high school experience was an exercise in “will this get me closer to getting out of here?”. The thought of getting into any trouble at all scared the crap out of me, because that meant getting stuck there.

I will wildly speculate that anything with alphanumeric characters would have counted, because we weren’t too far away from the 1980s satanic panic and the movie War Games, the cold war was still on, and who know what the letters might be code for!?!?11 ZOMG, think of the children!

I admit my brevity probably cost me some understanding there – I assumed most would find the humor in my ironic misappropriation of the term when juxtaposed against the same conservative christian ethos that clutch pearls over the potential for a plural society (“next thing you know we’ll have Sharia law here!”) -and yet also exhibit similar tendencies (“omigosh, part of her knee was showing”).

I am explicitly not comparing a school dress code to Sharia, just showing the irony in the enforcement of dress codes by the same groups who would decry pluralism on the same grounds.

Because, ya know, nuance.

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The way the article wrote the mom’s concerns, it was question of publicizing disciplinary record - not peer shame. Only that would apply to FERPA.

There’s typically an element of embarrassment (especially as a teen) in being called away from the group for any negative reason. So, if you care about your team, just doing laps alone is somewhat embarrassing. Also, I wrote about suspensions - not detentions. In suspension, you’re gone from class. People notice, and they ask about your absence. Both the examples I provided were examples that included some level of public display, and probably embarrassment. I would never compare them to the type or level of embarrassment engendered by Oakleaf’s actions, but it’s important to understand that all are public and all may be embarrassing.

It’s also important to know that FERPA isn’t designed to prevent schools from being able to discipline students. It’s more like HIPAA which protects patient privacy. FERPA protects the privacy of educational records. It doesn’t deal with the actual creation of records or policies.

if the dress code was “all students must wear appropriate makeup”,

and the boys were made to wear masks when they failed to comply,

(actually, that makeup is downright cool, especially next to what his models usually wear)