To be honest, I don’t see why schools need dress codes. I seem to recall that mine had an utterly vague rule about appropriate dress without any specifics or sanctions, but it never came up in practice. I am not really sure what is supposed to be prevented there.
Individuality, and teachers actually addressing bullying in any kind of meaningful way, as far as I can figure.
i was right there with you.
but nowadays, ambitions and goals are so much dross. petty rebellion is the new conformity. occupy bumfuck nowhere!
Saw this commercial last night, and immediately thought of this thread. Nice to know there’s a job out there waiting for any miscreants from that school.
This. I worked for a decade in a 6th grade classroom and can understand the arguments about distractions/competition, and I might agree to the school having such an uncomfortable pushback policy for disciminatory language or symbols that wearing them might not be worth it, but I wonder: How the hell are we going to teach kids that life is about getting along, being productive and having a good time with people and all their differences when we show them that authority and uniformity are ideals? I think students should be allowed to wear whatever, and the school should teach students to be as polite and chill about it as you will have to be on the NY subway.
The comments on the story’s website freaked me out. More and more people (particularly college-aged and mid-20’s commenters) responded with versions of ‘the rulz is the rulz and if you break the rulz, STFU and take your punishment’ or ‘in the real world there’s arbitrary rules all the time and if we don’t teach kids to follow the arbitrary rules they will get fired or worse’. Seems clear that the teaching of patience, i.e. “in life you will probably have to stand in line a lot and fill out forms and pay for things like insurance that aren’t fun or free” is too subtle a difference from teaching authoritarianism. And teaching flexibility and being, well, cool? “Yeah kids, you might get a job where someone dresses/talks/thinks/identifies in a way you haven’t encountered before or don’t like. If they aren’t doing it AT you or being a bigot, roll with it and find some other way to make the day interesting, rather than trying to stop them.”
Well, all I have to say is: the dress code should also require any student whose clothes show leg is required to shave said legs. That’s not gender-specific, now, is it?
i doubt it. your humor is gratuitously complex and uninsightful once explained, and undetectable otherwise.
i would guess that most people who liked your post were taking it “straight” at face value.
added: yeah, actually, looking at your post again, i think you just made up all this bullshit. there’s nothing at all to indicate that you were trying to be ironic or humorous.
One thing I love about that ad’s editing is the legal (for a “peach iced tea”) that doesn’t appear until the first taster smiles and then someone else smiles and shrugs it off:
“Does not contain juice.”
I remember having days specifically for wearing your PJs to school. You really should make her wear shoes to school though
We were actually encouraged to wear slippers in the classroom to keep us from bringing mud and slush into it. So there were a lot of kids wearing something like this:
If it was my child, I would tell the school “My child is not wearing this suit and if you try to make them wear this, we will sue your little pants off and take some skin as well!”
In my experience whether someone is well liked or not, if these rules are used against someone in this way the students will speak out against it and protest. Unless they have been brainwashed with the idiocy of “You have to respect officials authoritay!” on a regular basis.
on the first day of school, some kids want to dress well.
for boys, dressing well implicitly fits the dress code.
girls on the other hand must explicitly decide, “will i be punished for what i’m wearing?”
the rules themselves are what bring gender into play.
Unless they have been brainwashed with the idiocy of “You have to respect officials authoritay!” on a regular basis.
isn’t this what school is for?
lets see, @Mister_Eppy’s complete post was:
Hester Prynne, we hardly knew ya. Also, sharia much?
and you said:
i would guess that most people who liked your post were taking it “straight” at face value.
yup. that makes sense. i literally thought mr eppy was saying sharia law had been enacted in Florida. thank goodness you helped clear that up!
since it’s not sharia law, you’re right! it can’t possibly have the effect of slut-shaming.
it’s great that we can bypass the bullshit women have to put up with, and not have to worry about how a theoretically “gender neutral” punishment could still have the side-effect of being worse for the girls it gets applied to.
#not all dress codes
If only it was that simple. Unfortunately, to do that, you’d need to know it was happening. This sounds very much like her mom found out about it after she got home. The school claims they gave her three options:
three options: an in-school suspension, calling a relative to bring acceptable clothing, or wear the school’s “dress-code-violation outfit,”
If that’s true, she didn’t call a relative (oh man, she didn’t take her phone call) and chose to wear the outfit. Miranda claims they didn’t give her any other options, but they insisted that she change. The handbook backs her version of the story because it only provides the punishment outfit as a punishment for dress code offenders.
It removes the parents from the circle of discipline, and protecting their children from unfair rules or unfair enforcement of rules. So while, yeah, absolutely that mother would have protected her child, she wasn’t included in the decision beforehand.
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