Where I enjoyed it was introducing all the physicists m just like The Prestige “look! Here isss David Bowie with a sssssilly accent! Another famous person!” Then there’s the spectacle of sound and light which was fun. And then the part about the duality of what he did/thought/wanted where his wife emerged as the actual hero of the piece and the only person in it with integrity and backbone. They only alluded to the physics parallels to these dualities because if they were to draw too many comparisons to the, as it were, uncertainty about Heisenberg they would be inviting comparisons to Michael Frayn’s masterful Copenhagen which is about quantum physics and Nazis (or not). If people are dissatisfied with the courtroom they might consider that play. It was fantastic when I saw it ages ago. Though it doesn’t have a clear hero like Oppenheimer’s wife, who saw through him, but stepped up when he was too equivocal and desirous of both doing and declining at the same time.
But it’s not as funny nor as full of pyrotechnics and spectacle as the film. I’ve never seen the film of it.
Oh, there is every reason to be critical of that. Women in Nolan’s films usually have all the depth of characterization of a cardboard cutout. And the reviews I’ve seen pointing that out are spot on.
I was talking a bit more generally than this film, about criticism that I often see, but for this film I have seen people complaining that it didn’t center the experience of Japanese bomb victims. A biopic of Oppenheimer is going to be a poor vehicle for that to begin with. Japanese bomb victims should get their own stories told in their own movies. There are some, there should probably be more. But saying that the movie should have cut over to Japan to show the devastation is asking the movie to be something it is not, which is an exploration of Robert Oppenheimer from the viewpoints of two deeply flawed assholes (Oppenheimer and Strauss). (And I want to stress that this review did not specifically ask to cut over to Japan, that was a complaint I saw on a social network, but I’m talking generally about people’s criticism of stuff)
Just saw Oppenheimer.
I thought it was technically impressive but a shite movie.
As others mentioned - it felt like 3hrs of trailers or montages masquerading as story or narrative.
Brutal and jarring editing, lots of Acting™, ridiculous dialogue, and far too little time exploring the impact on the Japanese.
The latter is especially galling- having just recently spent time in Hiroshima on Aug 6th, visiting the museum and participating in Hiroshima Day events.
Yeah. Very creepy. In some ways analogous to the this thread about a 25-year-old making creepy comments about a then underage Hillary Duff. The comments rightly contain many posts critical of the creepy comments. In Twilight the age difference between Edward (Elderly vampire) and Bella (Pallid Waif) are even greater, but it’s not generating anything like the same level of criticism.
It is creepy but the problem is that, according to the tradition of the genre, that’s how vampires roll (all the way back to Bram Stoker). You might just as well complain about Superman being able to fly.
But usually the vampire is not a wholly sympathetic lover, but deep down a monster. That pushes it over the edge from the usual narrative and separates it from say Bram Stoker’s Dracula.
Although a precedent to Twilight would be the George Hamilton comedy Love at First Bite. But the love story there plays a distant second to Dracula in 1970’s NYC gags.
Not holding women to a different standard then men? This thread is a bit full of that shit.
Exactly. But I’m not being “helpful” pointing out their “blindspots”? I get that I’m not polite enough for some people, but I’m really sick of this kind of low-level misogyny flying under the radar here, and then people attacking the long-standing, active members for pointing it out.
i was more responding to idea that if someone ( @MrShiv ) is going criticize a post – then the right thing to do is offer an alternative solution.
you were actually very polite in your response to the poster – especially considering how endemic the bs is and how exhausting it must be – and you offered feedback on what to do instead of only what not to do.
