We call the three buck variety “Up Chuck”.
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Your post confuses me.
You state that you “drink sweet booze” because you “don’t like the taste of alcohol”.
Except… that would fit in exactly with what I said in my post, the comment about not “having to deal with the taste of traditional hard drinks”. So I’m not sure what you’re getting at with that particular point?
As for your preference of mixed drinks for getting “smashed” as you put it, I don’t understand what that has to do with the popularity of cheap, sweet wine for the same purpose. When I said that “people” like to drink it for the reasons I listed above, I was making a generality, not an absolute statement applicable to each and every case and individual.
It’s like responding to a comment about how “people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals” by pointing out that you as an individual are actually quite intelligent and composed. Such a response seems to miss the meaning and point of the initial comment entirely.
As for “objective moral superiority”, again, I’m confused why you bring it up. I personally made no stated value judgements on how others choose to drink - if anything, you’re the one making such judgements, because you seem to be instantly assuming that drinking “to get fucking smashed” immediately makes a person a slovenly drunk with no moral fiber - or at the very least, you’re jumping to conclusions in assuming that I think that, for some reason.
Nice, just add Boone’s Farm, “Cisco”, and a $5 jug of Gallo “Paisano” and you’ve got a party started. Toss in a little Brass Monkey if you’re feelin’ froggy.
Americans make more (and better) varieties of beer than Europeans.
You know, I don’t think I’ve ever tasted American wine. I didn’t even realize you made any (obviously some, but I mean enough to sell it aboard in considerable quantities), but now that I think about it, of course California is suitable for growing grapes. When I was in America, I never saw anyone drinking it or even talking about it, so it never dawned on me.
That smells like a bait, so I’m gonna have to resist the urge to take it.
There’s a lot of decent wine made in Washington and Oregon, too.
And on the subject of beer, the US craft movement is way ahead of Europe (although a bit obsessed with hops). They don’t have institutions like CaMRA or that silly German purity law holding things back (although still, yay for CaMRA and their beer festivals).
Yes, they do still have all that crappy mass-produced lager but so does everywhere else. Most Americans I know have the same attitude to Bud/Coors etc as Europeans do.
Well damn, I spent a lot of time in Washington.
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And on the subject of beer, the US craft movement is way ahead of Europe (although a bit obsessed with hops). They don’t have institutions like CaMRA or that silly German purity law holding things back (although still, yay for CaMRA and their beer festivals).
Yes, they do still have all that crappy mass-produced lager but so does everywhere else. Most Americans I know have the same attitude to Bud/Coors etc as Europeans do.[/quote]
I know American beer isn’t all Bud Light and you have plenty of excellent craft beers (Firestone Walker Wookey Jack was damn delicious), but whenever someone tries to claim that some country or region has “better” beer than anoher, I just shake my head. These things are too subjective and Europe especially is too huge of a place for any sort of reasonable comparision. My own heart is with Czech beer (and I’m not from there, so it’s not patriotism), but that’s just me.
[[Edited to change the word “objective” to “subjective” - now that’s one awkward mistake]]
Ah, proper Budweiser 
US beers aren’t ‘my’ beers - I’m English.
Clearly an end-run around not being able to ban it outright just for being Coors. Kinda like nicking Al Capone for his taxes.
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