Been voting longer but today was my first day with a line as well. I only had to wait about 15 minutes to vote though. When I was finished, the line to vote was even longer.
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You need to have the voting card, and doing a false recognition one risks up to 10 years in jail for perjury, and normally this is used in small towns where everybody knows everybody.
And it’s a fringe case, normally like people using the flying license or the hunting license as ID.
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But the same’s true of the UK (inasmuch as its system can be said to have been designed). Democracy in England (and I assume much the same can be said of elsewhere in the UK) was the result of the monarchy grudgingly conceding a measure of power to the barons, the monarchy and barons grudgingly conceding the same to the lesser gentry and the bourgeoisie, and all of the above eventually very grudgingly conceding some power to the working class. For fifty years after the American Revolution, well over a hundred parliamentary seats were essentially in the gift of rich individuals, thanks to “rotten boroughs”, places that had been granted their own representation because of former prominence or royal caprice, but now had purely nominal electorates who voted as they were directed by their landlords: for example, Old Sarum was an uninhabited mound, yet still returned two MPs; so did the once-great port of Dunwich, which had long since fallen into the sea. Compare with Manchester, one of the world’s great industrial cities, which had no separate parliamentary representation until 1832.
Even when those abuses were corrected, most adults did not have the vote until 1918, and full universal suffrage didn’t arrive until 1928.
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Nobody disputes that the UK is weird, too. There’s a reason they are also sliding into right wing authoritarianism.
It can but other parts of the UK were more willing to get rid of that legacy in recent times.
Just compare these pictures to see why English (and Northern Irish) politics are uniquely antagonistic and divisive:
England:
Northern Ireland:
Scotland:
Wales:
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The Palace of Westminster is falling apart. It’s high time we moved our parliament to a more modern facility. Keep the old one as a museum. (Let people buy overpriced drinks in its many bars.)
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I hope it has come across from my pictures that the problem I see is not the architecture but the arrangement in an opposing bench system rather than a semicircle, like the rest of the European parliaments
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Yeah, but you wouldn’t be able to fit a semicircular arrangement in there without taking out some walls, and that’d probably make the whole thing collapse!
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Considering who it would probably collapse on, I think a semicircular arrangement might actually be the way to go.
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don’t forget that another feature baked into the design of the british house of commons is that there literally aren’t enough places for every minister of parliament to sit. deliberately so to create the mood of a “crowded house” to add drama and tension to debate over contentious issues.
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Hahahahahahhahha.
You put a smile on my face! Thanks. Obrigado.
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But like, seriously, tho, stop Kanye. He needs to go get help.
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