Larry Harvey on Burning Man's diversity gap: 'Black folks don't like to camp as much as white folks'

Your ideas come from consumption and digestion of the past. Your biological determinism is irrelevant.

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I have to ask at this point, are you trolling, or just not great at this reading lark? I don’t believe in biological determinism, did you miss the bit where I mentioned a middle-ground?

Ideas couldn’t exist without a brain capable of creating them in the first place, the shape of those ideas are further constrained by the limits of that physical system, the evolution of those ideas is recorded as history, but that history doesn’t determine future events. It is the interaction of those ideas and the rest of the physical universe (for those ideas are the nothing but physical interactions themselves) that determines future events.

We seem to be getting a bit lost here, where were we again, camping is a system of white supremacist oppression?

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Yep.

http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/view/african-american-boy-scout-movement-story

Sons of Daniel Boone - Wikipedia

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Non-American camping?

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lol, where we were is what happened in the past, it was already discussed back then. whatever we’re discussing in the present day, it’s not where we were.

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So you should laugh if I were James Baldwin?

Thanks for the nonsense. I’ll take your ad hominem as a tacit admission of your inability to deal with what I’ve been saying. Thanks for playing.

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No, I shouldn’t have laughed because it was mean spirited, I like Baldwin. You attempted to say something profound but buggered it up.

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Jane Elliot rocks SO hard.

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Nonsequigif

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Not for me. I’ve gathered, though, why it would be for you.

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Nah. More like we ignore history and how it shapes us now, because we have such piss-poor education in this shit hole of a country. We’re not disconnected from the past, we’re shaped by it, and it’s still here with us.

DuBois said that the problem of the 20th century is the the color line, and that remains true today. We’re still dealing with the same old racist BS now. We’re not going to deal with that by ignoring the past and pretending like it doesn’t shape our world now. What did old Faulkner say, the past isn’t dead, it isn’t even past? Or Marx, the past weights like a nightmare on the brains of the living? Paraphrasing, natch. If you want to live in a world where no one talks about race or gender, than we all got to sit down and sort this shit out. We’re not getting anywhere productive until we do…

Here’s the whole gif set of her quotes and the video where she said it:

http://rebloggy.com/post/racism-90s-1990s-poc-white-privilege-jane-elliot-1992-whiteness-race-relations-g/72838914743

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Please enlighten me.

Just ponder @anon61221983’s comment right above yours. It won’t provide instant enlightenment, but it’s a great start.

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In that case, yes, still a non sequitur. My point didn’t relate to our knowledge about the past at all.

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Did somebody see where I left my innocence?

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What does it relate to then?

Have you tried under the couch?

Whose little boy are you?

–James Baldwin, The Fire Next Time

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