Lawrence O'Donnell perfectly explains the first presidential debate

Donald Trump reminds me a little of Grunkle Stan when he ran for mayor in The Stanchurian Candidate episode of Gravity Falls.

Wow. Powerful. I’m speechless. What an incredible, thorough analysis, Mr. O’Donnell! Thank you.

I respectfully disagree with the “too long” opinions. I would like to see him go point-by-point through the entire debate (or campaign). Maybe a 90-minute documentary. It could be divided into 3-minute segments that others could use to explain individual points.

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Needs more John Oliver, in other words?

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Eh…I never got a foothold with John Oliver’s delivery and humor. I still love him for bringing attention to relevant issues, though.

Other than Jon Stewart, the only other person I can see distilling Monday night’s shitshow into a few sweet minutes of scathing wit is P. J. O’Rourke.

Sounds crazy, right? Well, this is a crazy year: O’Rourke endorsed Clinton in May.

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Had to stop watching after a few minutes, it was ridiculous

That’s the prelude to the “Hillary Stole the Election” narrative which is what conservative talk shows plan on talking about 24/7 at least until she gets sworn in.

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Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the debate?

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Follow that up with the inevitable torrent of Congressional witch hunts into every little thing they can make up from thin air and you can see how the conservative talk shows have their next 4.5 years pretty much booked solid.

Throw in the inevitable 10-20 shows about how liberals and Clinton are the main cause of [latest mass gun killing] and how any restrictions on guns are socialism. Add a bit of flag waving and god bless, and baby you’ve got yourself a stew!

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Did anyone else get a frisson of horror about the “She deserves it” title? It’s not about being raped. A lady is actually getting what she worked for.

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Samantha Bee did a good job today on Full Frontal of looking at the debate and its aftermath.

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That’s the one. I had mixed feelings about Bee on TDS, but really like the rapid pace and sharp focus of her own show.

Watched the short segement with Tom Nichols - and here was finally somebody who expressed what I’ve felt every time I’ve read a longer transcript of Trump speaking (I cannot bear to listen to him speak): He’s just stringing together phrases without any underlying intelligence or knowledge most of the time. The rest is just phrases with meaning but little to no relationship to reality (e.g. building a wall and have Mexico pay for it) and nasty attacks. Trying to analyze what he means is a futile endeavor. He does not have policies, principles or plans. That is the message the media should transport, not try to analyze what just isn’t there.

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Also, how many people chose not to watch because they knew the 24-hour news media was going to cover it at length non-stop until the next big story? Just because people didn’t tune-in to that bat-time and that bat-channel doesn’t mean they weren’t aware/engaging with the content of the debate.

I’m with you, Trogdor. I usually avoid the MSNBC videos but this one was great. The “she deserved it” part was devastating.

Holy shit! This is the same memory that I keep having too. In 6th grade these two perfectly normal candidates for student body president got up and gave their perfectly normal and predicable speeches. Then this other kid got up there… and proceeded to promise that he’d get pizza and candy and Green Day to perform and on and on. He was clever in the way he phrased it “I could promise this… I could promise that…” The audience was whipped up into a frenzy and he was elected in a landslide. Obviously he never did anything as student body president and everyone sort of forgot that it happened. Your interpretation fits my experience exactly!

Did this happen in every middle school!?

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I guess so! Given how taken aback the school administration seemingly was, I had assumed this was something that hadn’t happened to them before - but perhaps it just didn’t happen very often, or they were just generally ineffective in the face of child-demagogues.
tRump manages to display both an elementary school level demagoguery on the one hand, but also a third-world-style brutal strong-man approach and blatant criminality, yet still half of the electorate don’t seem bothered.

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I think candidates for student body / class president making outlandish promises is kind of a cultural touchstone. Even Strong Bad makes fun of it.

Of course, with Trump, the coke in the water fountains is cocaine

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