Letter to the Editor

“MB got himself killed. It’s his own damned fault for being an aggressive cop charging violent THIEF”

Victim-blaming is enough, per our policy, though the driving trollies allcaps spittle-flecked execution really earns it out.

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Well, now. The straw men are burning bright in this one!

Just don’t make victims your “teachable moment” okay? Please, for the love of all that is mighty and noodley. Let THEM teach those moments. That is up to THEM, not you. You are not their story! And why are you so certain your perspective is correct in those moments you want to “teach”? Blech.

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I don’t find it difficult at all.

Is petty theft deserving of death by cop? No. Easy-as-pie.

Look at the long, out-of-place rant by @joseph_byrd. Not the same as saying he got what he had coming, despite being a cop-apologist, he states an opinion of his without blaming Brown because he acknowledges the contexts that he derives his opinion from. He thinks this particular shooting is justified, wants people to ?? but doesn’t victim blame. His is an opinion, probably wrong, and his opinion that justified killings by police aren’t in the equation of the overarching discussion/problem of race relations in policing is definitively wrong, but no victim blaming.

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FYI, it’s bollocks.

(So is the word you are looking for. :wink: )

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Good for you. Feel free to do that once you’re a victim of something.

Dragging victimized people you don’t even know (especially people who were victims of killings) into your “teachable moment” is really really rude and smacks of trying to use these people and/or the memory of these people just to try and score a point in an argument over issues that will probably never directly affect you.

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Thank you! I always add the “u” but apparently that was not correct and I appreciate the knew knowledge! It’s a fun word!

In this case, the victim is dead. That means it is only possible for others to teach something about racism associated with this act, and not that person himself. Clearly you are reacting to a few phrases of mine, and I have no axe to grind with you, so I’m going to exit the discussion here.

One might say I’ve learned from past experiences when its time to duck out of bb discussions! I’ve made my point to my satisfaction, and maybe… someone even learned something through my posts in this thread!

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Bollocks is what bullocks have and cows don’t, if that helps.

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You’ve moved your goal posts too often to make this reply relevant to my original point about your “teachable moment” bollocks (yay, I got it right this time!).

@EcholocateChoco It does, thank you!

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Of course they do. This place would look like a youtube comments thread if they didn’t. So many astroturfers, robots and mobilised forces sign up for every hot button topic that deleting comments and blocking users is completely mandatory to maintain anything vaguely resembling a coherent discussion.

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Actually, bullocks specifically don’t have bollocks.

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But but something blah blah teachable moment blah blah feminist forum they don’t want me there because I’m a white man waaah!! :smile:

Still not sure what the random feminist forum has to do with anything, but let me tell you, I am not surprised that a feminist forum, specifically, was brought into this discussion. Like, feminists are totally never dragged in the mud in unrelated topics! Never happens!

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Wow, corrected! And I grew up in a rural area, too. USED TO have, then. :slight_smile:

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OH MY GERD I am so confused, I must google! I grew up more around wild jack asses (donkeys) than I did bullocks lol.

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I think it would be extremely difficult for an organization of our size – less than 10 people, total, mostly part-time! – to provide a genuinely free and open platform. I would LOVE for such a thing to exist. I even have strong ideas on how it should be structured, to ensure that commenters have genuine ownership of their commentary, publishers have genuine control of what they publish from it, and the implicit social contract is transparent and crystal-clear!

But for building an inclusive, safe, progressive community spirit around our own editorial project, Discourse+our policies have served us very well. The tone is generally pleasant and Falcor feeds well.

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Also, honestly, Disqus sucks and is very limiting. In my opinion.

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Thanks. That gives better context.

Just wondering - why did you single that particular person out for ridicule on your front page? I’d be surprised if he’s the first person to tell you he’s not happy with BoinBoing’s editing policy.

I moved that comment to the ferguson thread. It’s a great example of something that disagrees with us, is in my view horribly wrongheaded, and which I’m proud to see published at Boing Boing.

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“MB got himself killed. It’s his own damned fault for being an aggressive cop charging violent THIEF”

And if you’re here to defend the expression of that kind of opinion then, frankly, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Everything you want to do can be done without tolerating victim blaming. So why put up with the constant derailment of victim blaming?

No, that’s contributing to the derailment. How Racism Works is usually already a part of the discussion without constant derailment. Derailments are not deeper dialogue. You have moved toward the shallow end to try and reach someone there and that’s where the derailment will likely keep you. If they can be reached they don’t need anyone to save them b/c reading, if they can’t be reached, it’s okay, they’re in the shallow end, let them be & the mods will take care of it.

Not that I always do that myself, I’m sure I deserve the ban hammer occasionally.

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