It wasn’t always that way, and it doesn’t have to stay like that. If we don’t fight this battle, and point out that there are other ways then only the Republicans and the US Libertarian party will gain from it.
I think this ties into what is going on in the Defining Socialism thread. If socialism/communism/anarchism are poisoned terms and libertarianism is only associated with the right, then should we come up with a new term to describe that area of politics, knowing that we will have to do it all again when that is inevitably poisoned/taken away from us? Or do we make a stand and fight for how we identify ourselves?
The Lib-Caps have no right to stop us from calling ourselves Libertarian-Socialists/Communists/Marxists if we identify that way, and we shouldn’t let them.
Well, you have to forgive me if my understanding of what you are saying isn’t crystal. You drive by, fire a few inflammatory shots about race wars and political pawns, and then I am the bad guy for not understanding any nuance to your statements.
I also don’t understand if you are are using “you” as me personally, or “you” as in third person libertarians. But it does seem to me you have a very clear pictures of what a libertarian is, which I don’t feel reflects reality at all. Yes, there are some who fit your stereotype. There are those who claim to be libertarians that I find extremely radical and I dare say crazy. But there are a lot of people who are moderates who if they took one of those political tests, find their views align with the libertarian view, even if they don’t consider themselves that, or they don’t consider themselves part of any specific sect of libertarians or part of any movement. You’re caricature of libertarians being Rand worshipers waiting for a civil war to reset the nation is just that.
I am curious what I have said that could be considered “against liberty”. Unless sarcasm taken out of context, I don’t recall me supporting “many things against it”.
Though you are right. I have no legitimacy. I am just an internet commando spouting off my opinion. I try to make my very, very small sphere of influence a better place, but I am not marching in the streets, writing letters, or having any real impact on the world.
“I’ll see you in court, where you won’t be able to charge me with anything. Then I’ll see you in court again when first my company, then I will sue you personally. Not the TSA, YOU. Is it worth it? The only thing that’s going to stop me is killing me. Do you want to try and cover that up? They’re expecting me at home.”
